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Anderson Hoffman Petry Rebuild

Créé par: Campabee
Date de création initiale: 20 juin 2022
Publié: 20 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
These are just some different ideas to move these players. All teams involved are rumored to be interested to some degree. I am not sure about the Caps trade I think the Caps might need to include some cap coming back to Montreal.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Pitlick, Rem31 750 000 $
Primeau, Cayden2850 000 $
Schueneman, Corey2850 000 $
Romanov, Alexander83 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Dauphin, Laurent1750 000 $
Subban, P.K.24 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. 2023 2e round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Anderson, Josh
Détails additionnels:
Not saying the Oilers should do this just using the return from the article to show what Montreal should\would want.

https://awinninghabit.com/2022/06/19/montreal-canadiens-three-trade-offers-habs-accept-josh-anderson/
2.
MTL
  1. Iorio, Vincent
  2. 2022 3e round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. 2022 2e round pick (EDM)
3.
MTL
  1. Poirier, Rémi
  2. Stranges, Antonio
  3. 2023 2e round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Petry, Jeff
Détails additionnels:
Only if Klingberg leaves
Rachats de contrats
  • Karl Alzner: 833 333 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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Logo de DAL
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2382 500 000 $76 851 666 $1 132 500 $1 535 000 $5 648 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Caufield, Cole
880 833 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
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Suzuki, Nick
7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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Dadonov, Evgeni
5 000 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 1
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Pitlick, Rem
1 750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
Wright, Shane
925 000 $
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Gallagher, Brendan
6 500 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
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Bourgault, Xavier
925 000 $
C
RFA - 3
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Dvorak, Christian
4 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
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Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 1
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Poehling, Ryan
750 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
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Evans, Jake
1 700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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Armia, Joel
3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Edmundson, Joel
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
Subban, P.K.
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA
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Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
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Romanov, Alexander
3 750 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
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Savard, David
3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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Allen, Jake
2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Harris, Jordan
842 500 $
DG
RFA - 1
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Wideman, Chris
762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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Byron, Paul
3 400 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
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Schueneman, Corey
850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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Dauphin, Laurent
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1

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20 juin à 11 h 57
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I mean, the same article had the Flyers potentially giving up 5OA for him too, so yikes...

*If* the Oilers dealt for him, there'd have to be a cap dump coming back though.
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20 juin à 12 h 1
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I mean, the same article had the Flyers potentially giving up 5OA for him too, so yikes...

*If* the Oilers dealt for him, there'd have to be a cap dump coming back though.


Yeah I saw that, but it also had JVR attached at full value so....

EDIT** they also were pretty close on all of the deadline deals this past year.
20 juin à 12 h 4
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Yeah I saw that, but it also had JVR attached at full value so....


Meh, I mean, granted that it's Chuck Fletcher in Philly, and yes, I've heard that there's interest in Anderson, but heavens to betsy that's a heck of a lot worse of a contract than 1 year of JVR tears of joy
20 juin à 12 h 12
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Meh, I mean, granted that it's Chuck Fletcher in Philly, and yes, I've heard that there's interest in Anderson, but heavens to betsy that's a heck of a lot worse of a contract than 1 year of JVR tears of joy


JA is a more unique player than JVR as well. There are not many players around the league who combine toughness, speed, hitting and skill. The three others that come to mind are Wildon, Kreider and Kane. I know all 3 are more productive but they are pretty much the only other 3 with the same skill sets.
20 juin à 12 h 18
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JA is a more unique player than JVR as well. There are not many players around the league who combine toughness, speed, hitting and skill. The three others that come to mind are Wildon, Kreider and Kane. I know all 3 are more productive but they are pretty much the only other 3 with the same skill sets.


Yeah, the problem with those comparisons is that sure, he does all of those things, but those 3 have done it succesfully for a number of years, whereas Anderson did it reasonably well once, 4 years ago.

All of that being said, GM's have a history of doing fooooooolish things, and it won't surprise me when someone saves the Habs from the last 5 years of that contract. Not saying that he's *bad*, just saying that it's a scary contract, especially with his injury history.
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Not sure Washington takes Hoffman on waivers.

Dallas doesn't have cap room to take on Petry.
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I mean, the same article had the Flyers potentially giving up 5OA for him too, so yikes...

*If* the Oilers dealt for him, there'd have to be a cap dump coming back though.


whenever i do a ACGM that involves Andy to EDM it revolves around Anderson, Allen and some mid round pick for Bourgault, Pulju (yes ik his value is higher than that but Kenny Holland seems to think otherwise) and Kassian at full value
20 juin à 12 h 37
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whenever i do a ACGM that involves Andy to EDM it revolves around Anderson, Allen and some mid round pick for Bourgault, Pulju (yes ik his value is higher than that but Kenny Holland seems to think otherwise) and Kassian at full value


The Poolparty thing kinda makes me chuckle...*IF* Holland put Oilers fans through those schenanigans a couple of years ago to then turn around and sell him (extremely) low, it'd be pretty comical.
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Not sure Washington takes Hoffman on waivers.

Dallas doesn't have cap room to take on Petry.


Dallas has the cap space if Klingberg moves on. The stars currently have 19 mil in cap, with 11 forwards and 6 defensemen signed. Their biggest resigning are Robertson and Ottinger

The Caps are looking for LW scoring help but only have 8 mil cap to do it especially with Backstrom potentially out long term. Luke I said they probably need to send back cap to make it work but the need is there.
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Dallas has the cap space if Klingberg moves on. The stars currently have 19 mil in cap, with 11 forwards and 6 defensemen signed. Their biggest resigning are Robertson and Ottinger

The Caps are looking for LW scoring help but only have 8 mil cap to do it especially with Backstrom potentially out long term. Luke I said they probably need to send back cap to make it work but the need is there.


And Jason Robertson and Oettinger to sign. Along with 5 others to fill the roster.

The bidding war for Hoffman was one team. And Montreal is very happy with Hoffman. They'd never trade him.
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And Jason Robertson and Oettinger to sign. Along with 5 others to fill the roster.

The bidding war for Hoffman was one team. And Montreal is very happy with Hoffman. They'd never trade him.


I think you need to check again, with Petry you have 7 D signed and I included Robertson and Ottinger as the 2 biggest needs to resign. With them you would have 1 goalie and 12 forwards signed so to fill out your roster you only need 2 more forwards and a backup\tandem goalie with 13 Mil ish left after getting Petry that would certainly be enough to fill out your roster and resign Robertson and Ottinger.
 
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