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Kerfoot and debrincat

Créé par: planter5
Équipe: 2022-23 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 19 juin 2022
Publié: 19 juin 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
16 000 000 $
1750 000 $
1950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander (1 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
3 way trade:
Toronto gets bear
Buffalo gets 50% kerfoot, canes 4th round pick
Canes get kerfoot at 50%
TOR
  1. Bear, Ethan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
2.
CHI
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Lafontaine, Jack [Droits de RFA]
  3. Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  4. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
  5. Puistola, Patrik [Liste de réserve]
  6. Suzuki, Ryan
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (CAR)
  8. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
3.
SEA
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CAR)
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de CHI
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de ANA
Logo de CAR
Logo de CBJ
2023
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
2024
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
Logo de CAR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $81 349 417 $112 500 $500 000 $1 150 583 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
8 460 250 $8 460 250 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 820 000 $4 820 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA - 2
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
950 000 $950 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Kraken de Seattle
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
839 167 $839 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C
RFA - 2

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19 juin 2022 à 8 h 27
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Bear likely isn't qualified, Toronto can just sign him for free

Quality > Quantity on the Hawks trade
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19 juin 2022 à 9 h 38
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Bear likely isn't qualified, Toronto can just sign him for free

Quality > Quantity on the Hawks trade


Bear's rights are going to be traded. Civian reported the Canes are 95% likely to qualify him.

As for the Cat trade, there is a lot of both in there... that's a lazy take on it.
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19 juin 2022 à 9 h 48
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If DeBrincat costs that much I wouldn’t bother trading for him.
19 juin 2022 à 10 h 22
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Bear's rights are going to be traded. Civian reported the Canes are 95% likely to qualify him.

As for the Cat trade, there is a lot of both in there... that's a lazy take on it.


Maybe he's traded but it is entirely possible that he's just not QO'd still. I would not put his value very high at all right now, definitely not returning Kerfoot.

There are pieces with value in that trade but it is at the end of the day a lot of quantity and not at all realistic.
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19 juin 2022 à 10 h 26
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Maybe he's traded but it is entirely possible that he's just not QO'd still. I would not put his value very high at all right now, definitely not returning Kerfoot.

There are pieces with value in that trade but it is at the end of the day a lot of quantity and not at all realistic.


It's a very slim possibility that he doesn't get QO'ed and there's that slim possibility with a lot of RFA's this class. Bear isn't special because of it.

We've seen traded with a lot of quantity as long as the pieces are of value. If you ignore Gardiner, who could easily be sent elsewhere, every piece there is of value. If you remove Lafontaine and Puistola, everything there is of strong value and that is an extremely reasonable package. Just because there's a lot of pieces doesn't mean they are all worthless, which is what your original point suggested.

Morrow is the Canes best prospect.
Suzuki is number 3 or 4
Necas is a 23 year old NHL player that put up 40 points in a down year and wants to play C.
2 1sts (unprotected by the way, when the Canes have goalies made of carbon fibre) are nothing to turn the nose up at.

Just proving that your original take (quantity > quality) was lazy. I'm not saying it's realistic, before you try and suggest that I said that. You have had a history of trying to spin my words.
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19 juin 2022 à 12 h 6
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Quoting: Caniac2000
It's a very slim possibility that he doesn't get QO'ed and there's that slim possibility with a lot of RFA's this class. Bear isn't special because of it.

We've seen traded with a lot of quantity as long as the pieces are of value. If you ignore Gardiner, who could easily be sent elsewhere, every piece there is of value. If you remove Lafontaine and Puistola, everything there is of strong value and that is an extremely reasonable package. Just because there's a lot of pieces doesn't mean they are all worthless, which is what your original point suggested.

Morrow is the Canes best prospect.
Suzuki is number 3 or 4
Necas is a 23 year old NHL player that put up 40 points in a down year and wants to play C.
2 1sts (unprotected by the way, when the Canes have goalies made of carbon fibre) are nothing to turn the nose up at.

Just proving that your original take (quantity > quality) was lazy. I'm not saying it's realistic, before you try and suggest that I said that. You have had a history of trying to spin my words.


Thanks 2000 ☺️
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19 juin 2022 à 13 h 40
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if dubas sees bear as a potential solution on D for us i dont see how he can pass on this

Riley Brodie
Sandin Bear
Girodano Liljegren

*i think muzzin is going to be moved

i like it
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19 juin 2022 à 20 h 53
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The value is scattered amongst the vast array of players to CHI.

I agree the base would need to feature Necas, Morrow and a 1st. What is added from there becomes the art of the negotiation.

One thing is for sure. If the Hawks are moving CAT this off season they will want the high end quality and with reportedly a lot of teams at the forefront the Canes would have to put a strong package together with the others being able to send a top 10 pick.
 
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