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Getting rid of Khudobin is the key

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Équipe: 2022-23 Stars de Dallas
Date de création initiale: 14 juin 2022
Publié: 14 juin 2022
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This way Dallas has enough space for RFAs Robertson and Oettinger as well as retaining John Klingberg or even Michael Raffl and still be under cap limit with 23-man roster.

For me it's really a non brainer to do.
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  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Détails additionnels:
Arizona get 4th round (115th) pick in this year's draft, in which they do not have one and sends away late rounder for next year to absorb the contract of Anton Khudobin. Khudobin may even play for them some games as a backup.
ARI
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
Détails additionnels:
Dallas swaps picks to get Khudobin off the books.
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14 juin 2022 à 7 h 48
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Klingberg wants 7 x $8mil, most likely he walks as a UFA
Buyout Faska if a trade cant be worked out with him involved.
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14 juin 2022 à 7 h 53
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- Oettinger gets more money
- Either give Robertson a 3-year deal, 4-year deal, or an 8-year deal. Anything else is bad for Robertson or for Dallas
- Klingberg is going to want about $1M more than what you've got offered here

Easy fix to all of this:

- Don't sign Raffl (don't need him when Dellandrea/Studenic can fill his role for $400K less)
- Pay someone to take Faksa's entire contract.
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14 juin 2022 à 8 h 58
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Quoting: TheMooterus
- Oettinger gets more money
- Either give Robertson a 3-year deal, 4-year deal, or an 8-year deal. Anything else is bad for Robertson or for Dallas
- Klingberg is going to want about $1M more than what you've got offered here

Easy fix to all of this:

- Don't sign Raffl (don't need him when Dellandrea/Studenic can fill his role for $400K less)
- Pay someone to take Faksa's entire contract.


I think Oettinger knows Dallas and Jeff Reese is a great place for him to be and signing for 3.75M is actually a total comparable with Andrei Vasilevskiy bridge deal back in 2016. I know the cap is higher now but we have post-covid flat cap environment as well, so it balances out. We'll see what the number will be.

I'm actually on board with bridging both Oettinger and Robertson for 3 years and I see your point of signing him for that or 8 years. I just think with agents and all, they know that too and good compromise is signing him to 6 or 7 year deal, where he can be a UFA being 28 or 29 years old. That way you can actually save on cap instead of bridging him and then offering 10+ in 2025 or pushing to 8 year deal. The best case scenario is 8x8 contract, bottom line.

I think it's much easier to trade Khudobin than Faksa, that's why I did that and with Faksa, you get at least SOME return for your investment instead of NONE in Khudobin's case.
I'm also not on board re-signing Raffl, it was just an example of signing old UFA, because I had 1.2M in cap space and 22-man roster and we all know how Nill loves to do that.

Klingberg honestly isn't getting 8M, not even in an open market. Evolving Hockey has his most probable contract projection at 6.9M for 6 more years. 7x7 is just FAIR compromise from him AND the team.
14 juin 2022 à 9 h 1
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Klingberg wants 7 x $8mil, most likely he walks as a UFA
Buyout Faska if a trade cant be worked out with him involved.


If you want to buy out somebody, the best candidate is Ryan Suter but the best time to do it is probably next offseason.
Klingberg isn't getting 7x8M in open market. That 56M in total. My deal gets him around 50M but he gets to stay in Dallas.

The maximum I see somebody offering Klingberg in free agency is 7.5M for 7 years. Dallas can offer him the same offer, no problem. At that points, it's just his decision and I think Nill will play this exactly as he did with Khudobin after 2020 bubble run. He re-signed with Dallas the first day of free agency.
14 juin 2022 à 10 h 13
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I think Oettinger knows Dallas and Jeff Reese is a great place for him to be and signing for 3.75M is actually a total comparable with Andrei Vasilevskiy bridge deal back in 2016. I know the cap is higher now but we have post-covid flat cap environment as well, so it balances out. We'll see what the number will be.

I'm actually on board with bridging both Oettinger and Robertson for 3 years and I see your point of signing him for that or 8 years. I just think with agents and all, they know that too and good compromise is signing him to 6 or 7 year deal, where he can be a UFA being 28 or 29 years old. That way you can actually save on cap instead of bridging him and then offering 10+ in 2025 or pushing to 8 year deal. The best case scenario is 8x8 contract, bottom line.

I think it's much easier to trade Khudobin than Faksa, that's why I did that and with Faksa, you get at least SOME return for your investment instead of NONE in Khudobin's case.
I'm also not on board re-signing Raffl, it was just an example of signing old UFA, because I had 1.2M in cap space and 22-man roster and we all know how Nill loves to do that.

Klingberg honestly isn't getting 8M, not even in an open market. Evolving Hockey has his most probable contract projection at 6.9M for 6 more years. 7x7 is just FAIR compromise from him AND the team.


The cap increase is exactly why Oettinger will see $4M in this upcoming contract. We may be in a flat cap environment, but that's not something that Oettinger should be penalized for. After the postseason run he had, he'll see a bit more on his bridge than Vasilevskiy did on his.

Signing Oettinger for 6 years is an awful deal for Dallas because you run the very real risk of him walking as a free agent at the age of 29, while he's in the middle of his prime. Sign him for 3 years to a respectable cap hit & then get him locked down for 8 years after that. A goalie like him is one that Dallas should HAPPILY pay top dollar for in 3 years.

Faksa is still an NHL player, whereas Khudobin is not. The Stars have to pay to move either player & if I'm the team receiving either one of them, I want the guy that's at least still playing in the NHL. One of these players has the potential (however slight it may be) to bounce back, and it really isn't Khudobin at this stage in his career.

Klingberg SHOULDN'T get $8M, but given that he's in a position of need for most teams & he comes with a ton of top-pair experience, he'll get overpaid by somebody, especially if he goes to a team in that lives in a state with income tax
14 juin 2022 à 10 h 41
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I think the Goalies are going to get a little more $, Nill has always paid for goaltending. Wedgewall is probably north of 1.5 IMO.
14 juin 2022 à 12 h 9
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- Oettinger gets more money
- Either give Robertson a 3-year deal, 4-year deal, or an 8-year deal. Anything else is bad for Robertson or for Dallas
- Klingberg is going to want about $1M more than what you've got offered here

Easy fix to all of this:

- Don't sign Raffl (don't need him when Dellandrea/Studenic can fill his role for $400K less)
- Pay someone to take Faksa's entire contract.


It really depends on what basement teams are willing to pay Klinger. I’d take him at anything under 7. We’ll see what happens. Everything I’ve read makes me feel like Klinger is willing to work with them to stay
 
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