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Créé par: Whoppingjoker11
Date de création initiale: 9 juin 2022
Publié: 9 juin 2022
Équipe: 2022-23 Oilers d'Edmonton
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Puljujärvi, Jesse21 800 000 $
Yamamoto, Kailer43 650 000 $
McLeod, Ryan21 100 000 $
Geekie, Morgan11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Kulak, Brett42 400 000 $
Campbell, Jack44 500 000 $
Gagner, Sam11 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Patrick, Nolan
VGK
  1. Choix de 2023 ronde en 2e (EDM)
2.
EDM
    RETIRE?
    CHI
    1. Keith, Duncan
    2. Smith, Mike
    3.
    EDM
    1. Geekie, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
    2. Soucy, Carson
    SEA
    1. Barrie, Tyson
    2. Choix de 2024 ronde en 3e (EDM)
    4.
    EDM
    1. Pastrnak, David
    Détails additionnels:
    If Pasta is leaving in FA he won't get a HUGE return unless he's traded sooner
    BOS
    1. Bourgault, Xavier
    2. Foegele, Warren
    3. Samorukov, Dmitri
    4. Choix de 2022 ronde en 1e (EDM)
    5. Choix de 2023 ronde en 5e (EDM)
    6. Choix de 2024 ronde en 2e (EDM)
    Détails additionnels:
    '24 2nd becomes '24 1st if Pastrnak resigns and scores 45 goals following season
    Rachats de contrats
    • James Neal: 1 916 667 $
    • Andrej Sekera: 1 500 000 $
    • Zack Kassian: 666 667 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Milan Lucic: 750 000 $ (13%)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGE1E RONDE2E RONDE3E RONDE4E RONDE5E RONDE6E RONDE7E RONDE
    2022
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    2023
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    Logo de EDM
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    Logo de EDM
    2024
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    Logo de EDM
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2282 500 000 $81 335 167 $896 000 $2 200 000 $1 164 833 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    Holloway, Dylan
    925 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 2
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    McDavid, Connor
    12 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    Yamamoto, Kailer
    3 650 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 2
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    Hyman, Zach
    5 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 6
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    Draisaitl, Leon
    8 500 000 $
    C, AG
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3
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    Pastrnak, David
    6 666 667 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 1
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    Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
    5 125 000 $
    AG, C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
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    Patrick, Nolan
    1 200 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    Puljujärvi, Jesse
    1 800 000 $
    AD
    RFA - 1
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    McLeod, Ryan
    1 100 000 $
    C
    RFA - 1
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    Ryan, Derek
    1 250 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Geekie, Morgan
    1 000 000 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 1
    Gagner, Sam
    1 000 000 $
    AD, C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    Nurse, Darnell
    9 250 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 8
    Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
    Bouchard, Evan
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Campbell, Jack
    4 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 5
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    Soucy, Carson
    2 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
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    Ceci, Cody
    3 250 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
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    Skinner, Stuart
    750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
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    Broberg, Philip
    863 333 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    Kulak, Brett
    2 400 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 4
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Niemeläinen, Markus
    762 500 $
    DG
    RFA - 2
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    Klefbom, Oscar
    4 167 000 $
    DG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
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    Shore, Devin
    850 000 $ (0 $)
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 1

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    9 juin 2022 à 18 h 43
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    Honestly not the worst return for Pasta but I think the Bruins counter by asking for a 2023 1st instead of the 2024 2nd, and Holloway instead of Bourgault. Boston would probably retain half in that scenario as well.
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    9 juin 2022 à 19 h 5
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    Quoting: hairyberry
    Honestly not the worst return for Pasta but I think the Bruins counter by asking for a 2023 1st instead of the 2024 2nd, and Holloway instead of Bourgault. Boston would probably retain half in that scenario as well.


    Its pretty bad.
    9 juin 2022 à 19 h 11
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    Its pretty bad.


    Not really imo. It's essentially two 1sts (Bourgault was a good pick, he's quite valuable), a 2nd (which could easily turn into a 1st with Pasta playing alongside Mcdavid/Draisaitl), a 5th, a defensive prospect that could be a bottom pair NHLer, and a cap dump winger who could feasibly rebound into a 3rd liner on a new team. It's not an Earth-shattering return but it's not bad either.
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    9 juin 2022 à 19 h 17
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    Quoting: hairyberry
    Not really imo. It's essentially two 1sts (Bourgault was a good pick, he's quite valuable), a 2nd (which could easily turn into a 1st with Pasta playing alongside Mcdavid/Draisaitl), a 5th, a defensive prospect that could be a bottom pair NHLer, and a cap dump winger who could feasibly rebound into a 3rd liner on a new team. It's not an Earth-shattering return but it's not bad either.


    See the kind of things you’re talking about here. Late firsts. Guys that could turn into bottom pair players. That doesn’t move the needle. Quantity over quality.
    9 juin 2022 à 19 h 49
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    See the kind of things you’re talking about here. Late firsts. Guys that could turn into bottom pair players. That doesn’t move the needle. Quantity over quality.


    That's fair, so I presume you'd like something more along the lines of the Eichel return? (Top 6 forward, potential top 6 forward prospect, mid 1st rounder, 2nd rounder).
    9 juin 2022 à 19 h 53
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    Quoting: CMcAvoy73
    See the kind of things you’re talking about here. Late firsts. Guys that could turn into bottom pair players. That doesn’t move the needle. Quantity over quality.


    Bourgault doesn't look like much but he's one of the best shooters in his class. No reason he can't turn into another Pasta he's got elite potential, Samorukov is a good defensive prospect that got buried by Tippett his first game. Foegele I think would fit the Bruins style of play really well and can use a more supportive role. 10-15 goal scorer on third line isn't terrible. And you're only ever going to get mid to late 1st rounders for him. No building team is trading for him. Especially if he's for sure not re-signing and teams can offer him money as a UFA anyways. If he's FOR SURE not signing with Bruins I don't think this is a bad trade overall.
    9 juin 2022 à 20 h 12
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    Quoting: hairyberry
    That's fair, so I presume you'd like something more along the lines of the Eichel return? (Top 6 forward, potential top 6 forward prospect, mid 1st rounder, 2nd rounder).


    Personally i just want one premium future that can turn into a center. The Krebs type would be nice. Don’t care about the tuch type.
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    9 juin 2022 à 20 h 18
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    Bourgault doesn't look like much but he's one of the best shooters in his class. No reason he can't turn into another Pasta he's got elite potential, Samorukov is a good defensive prospect that got buried by Tippett his first game. Foegele I think would fit the Bruins style of play really well and can use a more supportive role. 10-15 goal scorer on third line isn't terrible. And you're only ever going to get mid to late 1st rounders for him. No building team is trading for him. Especially if he's for sure not re-signing and teams can offer him money as a UFA anyways. If he's FOR SURE not signing with Bruins I don't think this is a bad trade overall.


    Well, there’s nothing to indicate that he’s, “for sure,” not going to re-sign. And there also isn’t much to that argument. Bidding in UFA drives prices sky high, and you might miss out on the player all together.
    Plenty of contending teams have good prospects. And there are some teams looking to shift out of a rebuild that have good picks.

    If the bruins are trading pastrnak, they don’t care at all about guys that could be third liners.

    The whole, “no reason he can’t turn into the next pastrnak,” thing is kind of ridiculous. You can say that about any prospect.
    9 juin 2022 à 23 h 51
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