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Alternative to re-signing Paul - Puljujarvi

Créé par: CoopsTroops
Équipe: 2022-23 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 8 juin 2022
Publié: 8 juin 2022
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Pick up Puljujarvi to solidify the Top 6 for the next 2 years.
--- Too bad we don't have Volkov to offer anymore :p

Paul is nice, but keeping Paul probably forces Stamkos back to the wing after he's had one of the best seasons of his career after playing mostly center.

Stamkos, Point, and Cirelli is still extremely strong down the middle and we still have Colton in reserve if anyone goes out due to injury.
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    Not paying a fortune to do this, but I do the above trade if Buffalo will.
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 34
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 40
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      Is it possible we just put Paul at wing and allow Stammer to stay in the middle? I’d rather have Paul and our first round pick than Puljujarvi and Koekkoek.
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 44
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      its going to cost more than a very late first for pulju. The prospect from TBL side doesn't really move the needle. I'd say a 2nd+ Colton or Hagel should get it done
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 45
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      Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
      Is it possible we just put Paul at wing and allow Stammer to stay in the middle? I’d rather have Paul and our first round pick than Puljujarvi and Koekkoek.


      I don't know if I like Paul on the wing. Sure he can play it, but he seems most effective down the middle.

      If we want to keep Stamkos-Kucherov together, I think Point needs another winger capable of playing with a talented center.
      Personally, I like this better than with Paul.
      Koekkoek is only here because I don't like our D prospects ability to make the leap next year and I'm no more a fan of any potential low cost FA's. He could also give us the ability to move Sergy up with Hedman for an extended period.
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 50
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      Quoting: CoopsTroops
      I don't know if I like Paul on the wing. Sure he can play it, but he seems most effective down the middle.

      If we want to keep Stamkos-Kucherov together, I think Point needs another winger capable of playing with a talented center.
      Personally, I like this better than with Paul.
      Koekkoek is only here because I don't like our D prospects ability to make the leap next year and I'm no more a fan of any potential low cost FA's. He could also give us the ability to move Sergy up with Hedman for an extended period.


      Fair enough. I will say I’m intrigued by the potential of Puljujarvi. He seems like he’s inching towards a breakout season where he could contribute as a scoring power forward, similar to Val Nichuskin (who TB may have trouble containing if we play COL in the SCF). We could certainly use a young, big frame winger in our top 6.
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      Quoting: DmitryCoolikov_On_INSTAGRAM
      its going to cost more than a very late first for pulju. The prospect from TBL side doesn't really move the needle. I'd say a 2nd+ Colton or Hagel should get it done


      Holy overpay!
      I based my offer of what I've seen on here so far, but I agree most have been coming in low. Hagel plus Colton and a 2nd is ridiculous though.

      I'd do 2022 1st, 2023 3rd, and prospect of choice. Otherwise I'd just keep Paul.
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 51
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      Ya gotta remember the Sabres don't need to do anything like that so if any team is interested in unloading a player with a $6.875M cap hit for two more seasons, it's gonna cost more than a 1-round switch from a 4th to a 3rd. In fact, it'll cost more than a 3rd rounder by itself for a team wanting to do that, especially a team in Buffalo's division.
      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 52
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      Quoting: CoopsTroops
      Holy overpay!

      I'd do 2022 1st, 2023 3rd, and prospect of choice.


      depending on the prospect idk if tampa has any good prospects, that deal might work out, I just don't see holland trading him for something that isnt a overpay
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 53
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      I would want Jack Thompson included in that Buffalo deal for Seabrook
      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 54
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      Quoting: DmitryCoolikov_On_INSTAGRAM
      its going to cost more than a very late first for pulju. The prospect from TBL side doesn't really move the needle. I'd say a 2nd+ Colton or Hagel should get it done


      Keep him then
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      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 54
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      Quoting: Soninlawovwasgr8
      Keep him then


      bet smirk
      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 56
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      I would want Jack Thompson included in that Buffalo deal for Seabrook


      That seems a little excessive. Thompson may very well be our best D prospect
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      depending on the prospect idk if tampa has any good prospects, that deal might work out, I just don't see holland trading him for something that isnt a overpay


      You guys have Skinner, but I'm not sure what the rest of your goalie pool looks like. I'd be willing to throw in Alnefelt. He's probably a 1B option if he develops to his potential over the next 2-3 years.
      8 juin 2022 à 20 h 59
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      Quoting: CoopsTroops
      You guys have Skinner, but I'm not sure what the rest of your goalie pool looks like. I'd be willing to throw in Alnefelt. He's probably a 1B option at best if he develops to his potential.


      well we got skinner, kovovalov, fanti and rodrigue. Kono is going to play in russia for a bit so BAK would need a backup. I'm hoping we take a goalie in this years draft tbh
      8 juin 2022 à 21 h 0
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      Quoting: Boos
      Ya gotta remember the Sabres don't need to do anything like that so if any team is interested in unloading a player with a $6.875M cap hit for two more seasons, it's gonna cost more than a 1-round switch from a 4th to a 3rd. In fact, it'll cost more than a 3rd rounder by itself for a team wanting to do that, especially a team in Buffalo's division.


      it's a LTIR contract. It won't cost a 1st to move. It helps BUF more than it does TB. BUF can get to the floor and Seabrook was used as a cap cheap for LTIR purposes.
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      8 juin 2022 à 21 h 3
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      Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
      That seems a little excessive. Thompson may very well be our best D prospect


      Drop the picks
      8 juin 2022 à 21 h 27
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      Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan
      it's a LTIR contract. It won't cost a 1st to move. It helps BUF more than it does TB. BUF can get to the floor and Seabrook was used as a cap cheap for LTIR purposes.


      I get it, but in no way can anyone justify dishing out $9M in actual salary over the next two seasons to move up from 106 to 91. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
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      Quoting: CoopsTroops
      I don't know if I like Paul on the wing. Sure he can play it, but he seems most effective down the middle.

      If we want to keep Stamkos-Kucherov together, I think Point needs another winger capable of playing with a talented center.
      Personally, I like this better than with Paul.
      Koekkoek is only here because I don't like our D prospects ability to make the leap next year and I'm no more a fan of any potential low cost FA's. He could also give us the ability to move Sergy up with Hedman for an extended period.

      Cooper loved Koekkoek the first time around so sure
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      9 juin 2022 à 15 h 33
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      Quoting: Florida_Man_Maroon
      Is it possible we just put Paul at wing and allow Stammer to stay in the middle? I’d rather have Paul and our first round pick than Puljujarvi and Koekkoek.


      Yes and by the way, Nick Paul played most of his time on LW in Ottawa. We always thought he was better there

      Sign him and play him LW

      Keep your 1st round pick to acquire (steal) Connor Brown at the deadline. He'd look fantastic on a team like Tampa.

      A Paul - Cirelli - Brown line would kick some serious ass
      9 juin 2022 à 15 h 47
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      Quoting: Xspyrit
      Yes and by the way, Nick Paul played most of his time on LW in Ottawa. We always thought he was better there

      Sign him and play him LW

      Keep your 1st round pick to acquire (steal) Connor Brown at the deadline. He'd look fantastic on a team like Tampa.

      A Paul - Cirelli - Brown line would kick some serious ass


      Im surprised Brown isnt already on the Lightning lol. Seems like the type of player we target year in and year out.
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