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Trade Miller and Myers

Créé par: TysDeOreo
Équipe: 2022-23 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2022
Publié: 28 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Let me know waht you think but please do not be an A hole about it.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
46 250 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
1800 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Kravtsov, Vitali [Droits de RFA]
  2. Miller, K'Andre
  3. Othmann, Brennan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Miller, J.T. (2 125 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Khudobin, Anton
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Myers, Tyler (1 500 000 $ retained)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Enfoui
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2023
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2024
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Logo de DAL
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $76 372 500 $1 250 000 $1 550 000 $6 127 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 950 000 $4 950 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 650 000 $2 650 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 4
Logo de Rangers de New York
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
850 000 $850 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3

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28 mai 2022 à 14 h 56
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Rangers decline
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28 mai 2022 à 14 h 57
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I think anywhere between 2-2.5m RS, DAL could take it
Rangers aren’t really a feasible destination for miller considering the cap situation
28 mai 2022 à 14 h 59
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I think anywhere between 2-2.5m RS, DAL could take it
Rangers aren’t really a feasible destination for miller considering the cap situation


You're joking, right? Myers is still a #4 defenseman. We're taking back Khudobin's dead cap, and then retaining further. Dallas is only taking on ~1m in cap and they get the far superior player at this point for only a 3rd. There's no chance we're moving Myers at no financial savings just to get a 3rd.

I like the base idea of this trade if the money is right. I'd be hesitant at even 1.5m savings because we still need to find a replacement dman, and we won't find one at 1.5m who is better than Myers. People constantly think that just because he is overpaid that he sucks, when really he is a competent minute eater whose mistakes get blown out of proportion.

I'm not the Canucks, but I'd accept this trade if there was only 1m retained.
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28 mai 2022 à 15 h 0
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Rangers decline


Why do you think? they aould be getting a 99 point player making around 2 million dollars! If the rangers do not want to give up Schnieder this is the price.
28 mai 2022 à 15 h 3
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Why do you think? they aould be getting a 99 point player making around 2 million dollars! If the rangers do not want to give up Schnieder this is the price.


Future top 4 defenseman, Kravtzov and Othmann who are good in their own right, a 1st and a 2nd in a ridiculously deep class for a rental guy. They're not at the end of their window, they say no.
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28 mai 2022 à 15 h 3
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You're joking, right? Myers is still a #4 defenseman. We're taking back Khudobin's dead cap, and then retaining further. Dallas is only taking on ~1m in cap and they get the far superior player at this point for only a 3rd. There's no chance we're moving Myers at no financial savings just to get a 3rd.


I get that. I just want to get ride of Myers and if we can acquire a 3rd round pick me doing so I am in. Maybe I shouldn't have retained salary?
28 mai 2022 à 15 h 4
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Future top 4 defenseman, Kravtzov and Othmann who are good in their own right, a 1st and a 2nd in a ridiculously deep class for a rental guy. They're not at the end of their window, they say no.


Would they not be able to extend Miller?
28 mai 2022 à 15 h 5
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Quoting: Wqrrior
You're joking, right? Myers is still a #4 defenseman. We're taking back Khudobin's dead cap, and then retaining further. Dallas is only taking on ~1m in cap and they get the far superior player at this point for only a 3rd. There's no chance we're moving Myers at no financial savings just to get a 3rd.

I like the base idea of this trade if the money is right. I'd be hesitant at even 1.5m savings because we still need to find a replacement dman, and we won't find one at 1.5m who is better than Myers. People constantly think that just because he is overpaid that he sucks, when really he is a competent minute eater whose mistakes get blown out of proportion.

I'm not the Canucks, but I'd accept this trade if there was only 1m retained.


He is a bottom of the barrel WAR defenseman, he’s one of the least effective defenseman in even strength defense value and pk in the whole NHL. He does provide a little offensive value but enough to be that interesting. Canucks would be a lot better if he was even somewhat effective when he is on the ice but he is not. Minute eater is not a good thing at all if they struggle against high QOC (Myers does) and provide negative value when on the ice.
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28 mai 2022 à 15 h 6
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Would they not be able to extend Miller?


I'd think not, considering they traded him away. This is also the price for a rental not considering extension.
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28 mai 2022 à 15 h 6
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Would they not be able to extend Miller?
28 mai 2022 à 15 h 12
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I don't think Dallas does this. With Khudobin's latest injury, it's entirely possible that he ends up on LTIR and retires like Bishop did. If that's the case, there's no need to pay to move him.
28 mai 2022 à 15 h 50
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You don't even get K'Andre Miller alone with JT
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28 mai 2022 à 16 h 4
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Rangers max offer stands at Chytil + Kravtsov + Lundkvist/Jones + 1st.
28 mai 2022 à 16 h 49
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Why do you think? they aould be getting a 99 point player making around 2 million dollars! If the rangers do not want to give up Schnieder this is the price.


Keep Miller, Rangers are just fine without him.
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28 mai 2022 à 16 h 55
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Rangers max offer stands at Chytil + Kravtsov + Lundkvist/Jones + 1st.


Rangers didn't offer that much prior to the TDL, so they would only offer less now. I bet the max Drury would offer is (Chytil OR Kravstov) + (1st round pick OR Lundqvist) + a late round pick. If the Canucks don't like that, ok, they can keep Miller or trade him elsewhere.
28 mai 2022 à 17 h 20
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These JT Miller trades are getting out of hand lol
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28 mai 2022 à 19 h 21
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wouldn't do Kandre 1 for 1.... Cant afford a miller extension
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28 mai 2022 à 19 h 30
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I get that. I just want to get ride of Myers and if we can acquire a 3rd round pick me doing so I am in. Maybe I shouldn't have retained salary?


Probably need to dump a second at minimum to get rid of him at 1.5M
28 mai 2022 à 21 h 7
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He is a bottom of the barrel WAR defenseman, he’s one of the least effective defenseman in even strength defense value and pk in the whole NHL. He does provide a little offensive value but enough to be that interesting. Canucks would be a lot better if he was even somewhat effective when he is on the ice but he is not. Minute eater is not a good thing at all if they struggle against high QOC (Myers does) and provide negative value when on the ice.


WAR is also a useless stat in this league. He and OEL had a very effective even strength performance this year in terms of goals against. Most of his previous issues were part of our bad defensive structure which was resolved on the coaching change.
28 mai 2022 à 21 h 9
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Rangers max offer stands at Chytil + Kravtsov + Lundkvist/Jones + 1st.


You can keep Kravstov lol, but that's just me. I see him as negative value. If our direction is to start fresh, I'd consider Chytil+Lundkvist+1st still. I think our issue is finding out hte teams direction, not the value of the trade.
28 mai 2022 à 21 h 47
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You can keep Kravstov lol, but that's just me. I see him as negative value. If our direction is to start fresh, I'd consider Chytil+Lundkvist+1st still. I think our issue is finding out hte teams direction, not the value of the trade.

You've made it very clear you hate Kravtsov lol.

I personally am over trying to trade for Miller to be honest with you. He wasn't the same player here that he is in VAN. Bad habits tend to follow when you resurface in bad environments. 99 points is incredible and VAN should ask for a good package but it's so much more risky for us than any other team. Also hard time making that cap work unless VAN retained 50%.
 
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