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2nd overall

Créé par: justaBoss
Équipe: 2022-23 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 27 mai 2022
Publié: 27 mai 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
23 250 000 $
21 750 000 $
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1874 125 $
2762 500 $
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2762 500 $
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1750 000 $
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UFAANSCAP HIT
48 058 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Wright, Shane
3925 000 $
Slafkovsky, Juraj
3925 000 $
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MTL
  1. Zacha, Pavel [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NJD)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
  4. Choix de 6e ronde en 2023 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Caufield, Cole
  3. Hoffman, Mike
Détails additionnels:
Now I know this is never going to happen but honestly I don't see any other kind of "working" exchange between Montreal and New Jersey that involves the 2nd overall pick. Either Caufield or Suzuki simply must be included. Guys like Anderson, Dvorak, Petry, Drouin, Gallagher, Hoffman or Allen are just way too insufficient in terms of value, and a deal formed around these assets with a random number of prospects added to the trade doesn't fundamentally solve the quantity for quality issue.
2.
MTL
  1. Damiani, Riley
  2. Faksa, Radek
  3. Khudobin, Anton (333 333 $ retained)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (DAL)
3.
MTL
  1. Brossoit, Laurent
  2. Korczak, Kaedan
  3. Primeau, Mason
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VGK)
VGK
  1. Drouin, Jonathan (2 750 000 $ retained)
4.
MTL
  1. Prosvetov, Ivan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (ARI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (MTL)
ARI
  1. Smilanic, Ty [Liste de réserve]
  2. Weber, Shea
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (NSH)
OTT
  1. Clague, Kale
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
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UFA - 1
Wright, Shane
925 000 $925 000 $
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AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 5
Slafkovsky, Juraj
925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 1
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
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UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
8 058 000 $8 058 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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762 500 $762 500 $
G
UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
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UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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UFA - 1
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842 500 $842 500 $ (Bonis de performance507 500 $$508K)
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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880 833 $880 833 $
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RFA - 1
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NMC
UFA - 4
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27 mai 2022 à 13 h 21
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I don't see what the obsession with Habs fans is with getting both top picks in the draft because they like both guys.....Yeah so does every team in the league. Like they just got the top pick and because the top prospects are somewhat debatable, they feel the need to just get both of them to hedge their bets that at least one becomes a star.

Just draft Wright #1 and accept that you can't have all the best picks in the draft. Some other teams are going to get star players and there's always the possibility one ends up better than the top pick. Instead of trying to acquire ALL the best prospects, ensure the ones you do have become stars.
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27 mai 2022 à 13 h 24
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
ya thats why i think Ottawa would be more likely, the 7th overall pick isnt going to land you a super star player, so it will depend what they view their needs are. But i feel like theres a much better chance of that then of getting the 2OA from the devils.


Depends on what MTL is willing to offer. Combination of picks and prospects can be scratched right away, OTT has a surplus of those already. They need a top-6 winger for that pick, like Fiala for instance.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 26
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Some of these suggested trades don't seem so bad.
I don't see the need for the Ottawa trade, habs may as well keep him.
There's no way MTL is adding a 2nd rd pick (no matter the year), when they're doing ARI a favour. I like the fact that you added a prospect in Similac to sweeten the deal but the 2nd is too much - at that price may as well keep Weber on LTIR anyways.
I like the VGK trade but no need to include Primeau - a 2nd or 3rd rounder would suffice - adding in Brossoit is a good touch smile
I also like the DAL trade - but no need to add Khudoubin since he's buried anyways.
As for NJ - that's a hard no - Any trade talk that has Suzuki or Caufield mentioned is over immediately. I would also add Romanov and Ghule to that list to a certain extent.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: willinlisbon
Some of these suggested trades don't seem so bad.
I don't see the need for the Ottawa trade, habs may as well keep him.
There's no way MTL is adding a 2nd rd pick (no matter the year), when they're doing ARI a favour. I like the fact that you added a prospect in Similac to sweeten the deal but the 2nd is too much - at that price may as well keep Weber on LTIR anyways.
I like the VGK trade but no need to include Primeau - a 2nd or 3rd rounder would suffice - adding in Brossoit is a good touch smile
I also like the DAL trade - but no need to add Khudoubin since he's buried anyways.
As for NJ - that's a hard no - Any trade talk that has Suzuki or Caufield mentioned is over immediately. I would also add Romanov and Ghule to that list to a certain extent.


Thank you for some constructive feedback, here's my two cents on some points mentioned

Clague trade is involved to minimize the risk of losing him for free on waivers.

Don't forget that you're also getting a 2nd in the ARI trade, and very likely a higher one. I took inspiration of the Little trade and had a pick moved for prospect+LTIR contract, but seeing that
a) ARI will get closer to the cap limit so I added Prosvetov
b) Weber's LTIR contract is certainly better than Little's so the exchange of second rounders seemed to be a fit.

Brossoit and Khudobin are added in both deals strictly for cap reasons. I don't think either Vegas or Dallas is able to take in Drouin and Petry respectively without shedding some cap the other way.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 34
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Quoting: justaBoss
Allen has value. He'd form a decent tandem with Blackwood in NJ.

Hoffman is added strictly for cap reasons.

I do think Caufield has bit more value than the 2nd overall due to him being an established young asset. Zacha balances the value out there.


i dont know man. i have to disagree not that i think he is bad, but he gave you below average goaltending, behind what is an incredibly talented team up there. i mean like i could probably get a.900 percentage behind that team lol. i kid, but seriously average was .910 he gave you .905 thats a really bad look.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 38
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i dont know man. i have to disagree not that i think he is bad, but he gave you below average goaltending, behind what is an incredibly talented team up there. i mean like i could probably get a.900 percentage behind that team lol. i kid, but seriously average was .910 he gave you .905 thats a really bad look.


Really talented team? Are you kidding me lol?

They were the worst team in the league and also historically the most crippled one during one season. They had most games missed from original roster due to injuries. I think it was over 600 games collectively.
27 mai 2022 à 13 h 59
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sorry i thought it was toronto tears of joy . yeah i recant. .905 behind a very bad team is quite good actually. still take back that 2nd though

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Really talented team? Are you kidding me lol?

They were the worst team in the league and also historically the most crippled one during one season. They had most games missed from original roster due to injuries. I think it was over 600 games collectively.
27 mai 2022 à 14 h 59
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Why the **** would we trade Caufield for the 2nd overall pick.
27 mai 2022 à 15 h 8
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Quoting: will691123
Why the **** would we trade Caufield for the 2nd overall pick.


If you can't read, lemme say this again.

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Now I know this is never going to happen but honestly I don't see any other kind of "working" exchange between Montreal and New Jersey that involves the 2nd overall pick. Either Caufield or Suzuki simply must be included. Guys like Anderson, Dvorak, Petry, Drouin, Gallagher, Hoffman or Allen are just way too insufficient in terms of value, and a deal formed around these assets with a random number of prospects added to the trade doesn't fundamentally solve the quantity for quality issue.


Tl:dr - you don't. No one thinks they will. But if Habs fans want the pick, that's the cost, because they've got nothing interesting to offer except Suzuki.
27 mai 2022 à 20 h 1
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Who would have guessed. The best 2nd overall trade offer isn't from a Canadiens fan

Mercer-Hughes-Caufield
Holtz-Hischier-Holtz
cool
27 mai 2022 à 21 h 12
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Who would have guessed. The best 2nd overall trade offer isn't from a Canadiens fan

Mercer-Hughes-Caufield
Holtz-Hischier-Holtz
cool


Double Holtz tears of joy
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27 mai 2022 à 21 h 15
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Double Holtz tears of joy


Meant Bratt😂

But I wouldn’t mind if we cloned Holtz
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