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1 mai 2017 à 19 h 25
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I think Brendan Smith is overrated. The Rangers took Kevin Klein out of the lineup to put in Brendan Smith, they gave up a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick to get him as a rental, and in people's ARMCHAIR-GM teams, people are signing him for 4mil a year. Watching him this playoff, i go, "Why did they take out Klein to put this guy in?" What do you think?
2 mai 2017 à 8 h 20
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I think Brendan Smith is overrated. The Rangers took Kevin Klein out of the lineup to put in Brendan Smith, they gave up a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick to get him as a rental, and in people's ARMCHAIR-GM teams, people are signing him for 4mil a year. Watching him this playoff, i go, "Why did they take out Klein to put this guy in?" What do you think?


Klein is no good. Smith is a bottom pair guy.
2 mai 2017 à 12 h 8
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I think Brendan Smith is overrated. The Rangers took Kevin Klein out of the lineup to put in Brendan Smith, they gave up a 2nd round pick and a 3rd round pick to get him as a rental, and in people's ARMCHAIR-GM teams, people are signing him for 4mil a year. Watching him this playoff, i go, "Why did they take out Klein to put this guy in?" What do you think?


Klein is no good. Smith is a bottom pair guy.


Well Klein is obviously really good if he made it to the NHL, but yes, i've heard a lot of things that i disagree with about Klein/Staal/Girardi.
4 mai 2017 à 22 h 59
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Wow, someone voted for that he is underrated ... wow. i disagree.
30 mai 2017 à 12 h 29
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I think he paired very well with Skjei. We didn't get a huge sample size from him but he can skate and move the puck well and he has a good physical presence on the ice. Klein I thought was given the short end of the stick, and would have preferred him in over Holden, but he is definitely in the twilight of his career and should be a bottom pair defender for the remainder. I think Smith could be persuaded to stay and take under 4 mill because he thinks the team has a chance to win a cup and he is good buddies with the other Wisconsin guys. There are not a whole lot of UFA options out there this summer either, which is why his price might go up.
30 mai 2017 à 13 h 18
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I think he paired very well with Skjei. We didn't get a huge sample size from him but he can skate and move the puck well and he has a good physical presence on the ice. Klein I thought was given the short end of the stick, and would have preferred him in over Holden, but he is definitely in the twilight of his career and should be a bottom pair defender for the remainder. I think Smith could be persuaded to stay and take under 4 mill because he thinks the team has a chance to win a cup and he is good buddies with the other Wisconsin guys. There are not a whole lot of UFA options out there this summer either, which is why his price might go up.


The thing is though, he moves the puck and then loses it. I keep seeing Brendan Smith lose the puck, so i don't see him re-signing, and if he does i think it's for 900K or something.
30 mai 2017 à 17 h 11
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The thing is though, he moves the puck and then loses it. I keep seeing Brendan Smith lose the puck, so i don't see him re-signing, and if he does i think it's for 900K or something.


Lol he's not going to sign anywhere for 900k. He's getting minimum $3 million from someone
31 mai 2017 à 0 h 14
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The thing is though, he moves the puck and then loses it. I keep seeing Brendan Smith lose the puck, so i don't see him re-signing, and if he does i think it's for 900K or something.


Lol he's not going to sign anywhere for 900k. He's getting minimum $3 million from someone


So a guy gets 3 million dollars to lose the puck?
2 juin 2017 à 8 h 58
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I think Smith wasn't properly used in Detroit
Also Klein appeared hurt last season
2 juin 2017 à 12 h 23
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I think Smith wasn't properly used in Detroit
Also Klein appeared hurt last season


So are you saying you think Smith is overrated?
3 juin 2017 à 12 h 11
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The thing is though, he moves the puck and then loses it. I keep seeing Brendan Smith lose the puck, so i don't see him re-signing, and if he does i think it's for 900K or something.


He's gonna make 3-3.5 Million or more on the UFA market. Not every defenseman is a stellar puck mover, but he's one of the best defensive defenseman in the league and just needs to be paired with someone who is more offensive minded so he can focus on covering their defensive lapses. I'd be happy for the Stars to pick him up since we already have defensemen in Klingberg and Honka who are great at moving the puck.
3 juin 2017 à 13 h 40
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The thing is though, he moves the puck and then loses it. I keep seeing Brendan Smith lose the puck, so i don't see him re-signing, and if he does i think it's for 900K or something.


He's gonna make 3-3.5 Million or more on the UFA market. Not every defenseman is a stellar puck mover, but he's one of the best defensive defenseman in the league and just needs to be paired with someone who is more offensive minded so he can focus on covering their defensive lapses. I'd be happy for the Stars to pick him up since we already have defensemen in Klingberg and Honka who are great at moving the puck.


Maybe Smith would be good with someone who can help if someone makes a mistake. Maybe they should have tried Smith and McDonagh as the top pair, as McDonagh could help out when Smith loses the puck.
3 juin 2017 à 18 h 8
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He's gonna make 3-3.5 Million or more on the UFA market. Not every defenseman is a stellar puck mover, but he's one of the best defensive defenseman in the league and just needs to be paired with someone who is more offensive minded so he can focus on covering their defensive lapses. I'd be happy for the Stars to pick him up since we already have defensemen in Klingberg and Honka who are great at moving the puck.


Maybe Smith would be good with someone who can help if someone makes a mistake. Maybe they should have tried Smith and McDonagh as the top pair, as McDonagh could help out when Smith loses the puck.


Smith would likely be good with him, but I'm not sure I'd want him out there as much as McDonagh is. I'm not sure of the minutes spread between the d-pairs in NY, but I'd want Smith on my 2nd pairing unless the team does and even distribution of ice time for all 3 pairs throughout each game. Smith's game goes under the radar a bit because he plays a defensive role instead of the more common 2-way or offensive minded styles that are prevalent these days.
4 juin 2017 à 2 h 47
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Maybe Smith would be good with someone who can help if someone makes a mistake. Maybe they should have tried Smith and McDonagh as the top pair, as McDonagh could help out when Smith loses the puck.


Smith would likely be good with him, but I'm not sure I'd want him out there as much as McDonagh is. I'm not sure of the minutes spread between the d-pairs in NY, but I'd want Smith on my 2nd pairing unless the team does and even distribution of ice time for all 3 pairs throughout each game. Smith's game goes under the radar a bit because he plays a defensive role instead of the more common 2-way or offensive minded styles that are prevalent these days.


But McDonagh would be good at helping out if Smith makes a mistake (which likely happens). Smith is a puck-moving defenseman, he just keeps losing the puck. I think it depends who is on his pairing.
5 juin 2017 à 0 h 53
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Smith is definitely not overrated, if paired with the right partner, he is a decent top four d-man
5 juin 2017 à 15 h 14
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Not overrated at all. Underrated, in fact. Smith is a legit top 4 dman, and he had crazy good chemistry with Skjei.
6 juin 2017 à 12 h 57
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Not overrated at all. Underrated, in fact. Smith is a legit top 4 dman, and he had crazy good chemistry with Skjei.


And Girardi isn't? Who would you rather have?

Option 1: A guy who blocks shots, stops the other team's scoring chances, and moves the puck.
Option 2: A guy who takes the puck out of the zone and then gives it away to a guy on the other team.

I'd rather option 1, and i don't see what's so good about option 2.
6 juin 2017 à 19 h 2
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Your forgetting that option 1 is overpaid and aging.
7 juin 2017 à 1 h 43
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Your forgetting that option 1 is overpaid and aging.


Fair enough, but if there was no salary cap would you rather option 1 or option 2?
7 juin 2017 à 15 h 6
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Your forgetting that option 1 is overpaid and aging.


Fair enough, but if there was no salary cap would you rather option 1 or option 2?


Option 2.
8 juin 2017 à 17 h 17
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Fair enough, but if there was no salary cap would you rather option 1 or option 2?


Option 2.


Seriously?
8 juin 2017 à 21 h 57
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Option 2.


Seriously?


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10 juin 2017 à 12 h 37
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Seriously?


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why?
13 juin 2017 à 14 h 41
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What would you guys prefer? Bringing back Smith at 4-4.5 million on a 4-5 year deal. Or bringing in Shattenkirk at 6 million on 5-6 year deal?
13 juin 2017 à 18 h 56
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What would you guys prefer? Bringing back Smith at 4-4.5 million on a 4-5 year deal. Or bringing in Shattenkirk at 6 million on 5-6 year deal?


Shattenkirk. But they don't need him because Girardi is amazingawesome face. Right rangersandislesfan?awesome face
 
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