LTIR shenanigans don't help cap issues brought on by buyouts. This isn't the same situation as Tampa Bay and Vegas, and wouldn't work anyway.

If they did, we'd of just traded for Webers contract instead.

I've seen a lot of Marino to Vancouver trades on this site, and this one might be the worst. Yes, Miller is a significant upgrade to Garland or Boeser for the Penguins, but they are not giving up their first this year. That might have flown under GMJR, but Rutherford is part of Vancouver's management, iirc, and not Pittsburgh's. More importantly, the Pens also do not have the cap space to do this deal, with Malkin, Letang, Rust, and Rakell as UFAs. Miller would be an excellent winger to play with Crosby and Guentzel, but Myers would prevent us from resigning multiple important pieces. Not worth picking up Miller.

While I'm at it, I don't think Malkin is interested in a one year deal, even for that much money. ZAR also declines, I think last offseason he wanted around 2 mil, so you're going to get outbid on him.

Flyers don't really need Pearson but i'd take him for a fifth

Take out the Malkin signing and get more for Pearson and this is solid

Minnesota isn't trading dumba to take on Fernand. No, his contract doesn't help Minnesota. Dermott us nothing pieces. Tucker poolman is a cap dump Minnesota doesn't need. So Minnesota would decline

I think it is all a bunch of wishful thinking. This site is now full of people posting their wish list and very little of it will transpire.

I agree with your take in this trade being a bad one, but one thing I will point out re Pitt trading their 1st:

Jim Rutherford has said several times since coming to Vancouver that the directive from Ownership in Pitt was to be aggressive every year to make the playoffs and compete for a cup. It’s was ownerships directive that made him feel compelled to regularly trade away 1st rounders.

Now, maybe that directive has change in Pitt, but if it hasn’t I would bet we still see Burke and hex make some aggressive moves this offseason, which could even include trading the 1st rounder (though not in OP’s trade)

I would usually agree, but things have changed in Pittsburgh. The team has a new majority owner, and Burke + Hextall have explicitly stated that they currently don't have any intentions to trade away top picks/prospects, at least for right now. Hextall was a lot more aggressive on the ice than he is in management. The pair are pretty cautious. I don't expect more than like 1 big move, depending on which big UFAs return. This isn't the same team or management that has kept only 2 1sts from 2013 to 2021. The core is aging and the window is closing, but our prospect pool is frighteningly shallow. If the Pens sell off more futures, the rebuild will be long and painful. Yes, I'd love to be a true contender forever and ever, but that isn't realistic.

I they're trying to walk the tightrope of competing now without emptying our cupboards too much. The Carter and Rakell deals have looked good at that to me. We got Carter for a pair of 3rds. We got Rakell for a 2nd, a former 3rd, and some depth. It depends on what those picks turn into, and if Rakell walks, but so far both have been valuable pieces for Pittsburgh at reasonable costs. So if they think they can keep getting deals like this, I don't think they'll be interested in selling a 1st.

But Minnesota would trade Dumba, no?