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John Tavares Miller

Créé par: T0R
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 23 févr. 2022
Publié: 23 févr. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Niemela, Topi
1825 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Miller, J.T. (250 000 $ retained)
VAN
  1. Niemela, Topi
  2. Holl, Justin (1 000 000 $ retained)
  3. Kerfoot, Alexander
  4. Robertson, Nicholas
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  6. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
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2023
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Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $76 008 116 $0 $400 000 $5 491 884 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
950 000 $950 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 350 000 $1 350 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3

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23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 17
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Why the double retention when miller and holl both contracts expire at same time? Why not just retain 250k on holl???
Do you check contracts before posting stuff?

And Vancouver says no easily
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Why the double retention when miller and holl both contracts expire at same time? Why not just retain 250k on holl???
Do you check contracts before posting stuff?

And Vancouver says no easily


I made Holl a buriable contract, you get a 1st & 2nd along with a great Rd prospect then add a penalty killing winger & center that can slide anywhere up & down the lineup wtf would need to be added for you to say yes
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 30
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I'd rather keep the first/second round pick and Niemela. Defense is the area to address, Miller doesn't help.
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 33
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I'd rather keep the first/second round pick and Niemela. Defense is the area to address, Miller doesn't help.

Listen to me when i say this , Yes he does & there is 5 mil in cap space to work with now for Kyle with Miller, he has alot more options then before
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 36
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Pretty awful package for miller. Don’t get why the Canucks do this
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 36
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Pretty awful package for miller. Don’t get why the Canucks do this


How is it awful? What would you want
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 38
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Quoting: T0R
Listen to me when i say this , Yes he does & there is 5 mil in cap space to work with now for Kyle with Miller, he has alot more options then before


We agree to disagree.
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 38
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We agree to disagree.

Which is fine
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 46
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How is it awful? What would you want


Kerfoot is a nice 3C but JT Miller’s on ice value is easily comparable to that of John Tavares. So the gap in value is huge.

Holl adds nothing of value at all to the deal. If you took him out completely then it would probably be a better trade for vancouver

Niemela is a nice prospect but comes with lots of uncertainty. Probably the best piece of the deal though.

A late first and late 2nd are nice but can be beaten by any team.

A NYR proposal of Chytil, Lunkvist, a 1st and a 2nd is better than this one, and that is a package that many Canucks fans have said they would turn down for miller. I would rather wait till the offseason if this is the best offer the Canucks get
23 févr. 2022 à 11 h 54
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Why the double retention when miller and holl both contracts expire at same time? Why not just retain 250k on holl???
Do you check contracts before posting stuff?

And Vancouver says no easily


Quoting: The_Rocket
Pretty awful package for miller. Don’t get why the Canucks do this


I'm not sure if the post has been edited since these comments, but what more would you want? 2/3 of torontos top prospects, roster player to replace Miller's spot, 1st and a 2nd, and a throw away to make the money work. This is a better package than Eichel got. As a leaf fan I wouldn't do this trade even if you tookout Kerfoot and Niemela, although that would be a pretty close to value trade.
23 févr. 2022 à 12 h 32
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Quoting: JimCarrey
I'm not sure if the post has been edited since these comments, but what more would you want? 2/3 of torontos top prospects, roster player to replace Miller's spot, 1st and a 2nd, and a throw away to make the money work. This is a better package than Eichel got. As a leaf fan I wouldn't do this trade even if you tookout Kerfoot and Niemela, although that would be a pretty close to value trade.


Robertson has now been added. With him it’s a pretty good package. He adds a lot of value
23 févr. 2022 à 13 h 54
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Quoting: JimCarrey
I'm not sure if the post has been edited since these comments, but what more would you want? 2/3 of torontos top prospects, roster player to replace Miller's spot, 1st and a 2nd, and a throw away to make the money work. This is a better package than Eichel got. As a leaf fan I wouldn't do this trade even if you tookout Kerfoot and Niemela, although that would be a pretty close to value trade.

Just because it’s 2 of your 3 best prospects doesn’t really mean anything if they don’t have value. Niemela is definitely a good prospect and one that would be covered by 90% of teams but Robertson doesn’t have that much value. Many teams would have a player like him so I don’t think Vancouver would see that as a must have. The picks are what they are…holl is worthless in a trade and Kerfoot is who he is.

It’s not so much about value but about the needs that this fills for Vancouver and I don’t think fills a need.
23 févr. 2022 à 16 h 43
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Quoting: Lochness1202
Just because it’s 2 of your 3 best prospects doesn’t really mean anything if they don’t have value. Niemela is definitely a good prospect and one that would be covered by 90% of teams but Robertson doesn’t have that much value. Many teams would have a player like him so I don’t think Vancouver would see that as a must have. The picks are what they are…holl is worthless in a trade and Kerfoot is who he is.

It’s not so much about value but about the needs that this fills for Vancouver and I don’t think fills a need.


Robertson is arguably Toronto's best prospect. The Athletic had him as the #28 nhl prospect (just behind Krebs and Sanderson) so if you think he doesn't have value, that's foolish. I get that Vancouver needs to upgrade their blue line, but that doesn't mean good forward prospects don't have "value"
 
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