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If Schneider is Really Untouchable

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Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2022
Publié: 13 févr. 2022
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I'd be willing to downgrade the 1st or replace Lundkvist with Kravtsov
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  2. Othmann, Brennan
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  1. Miller, J.T. (2 625 000 $ retained)
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 9
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Othmann isnt going anywhere either.
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 10
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Quoting: aecliptic
Othmann isnt going anywhere either.


lol is every prospect you have untouchable?
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 17
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lol is every prospect you have untouchable?


Well, VAN fans keep going after either Schneider or Othmann both of whom arent going anywhere.
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 40
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Quoting: TheAlien
lol is every prospect you have untouchable?


Incorrect. Nils Lundqvist, Zack Jones, and Vitali Kravstov are all available. Just because Vancouver fans would rather have different Ranger prospects doesn't mean every prospect they have is untouchable. You don't like that Schneider and Othmann are not available is NOT a concern for Ranger fans. KEEP MILLER and the Rangers will go shopping elsewhere, like Vegas or Arizonia for a RW.
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 44
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22-21-6. LMAO


And how is this relevant to this post? If we trade Miller, it means we are re-tooling…
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 45
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Well, VAN fans keep going after either Schneider or Othmann both of whom arent going anywhere.


Don’t you guys already have Panarin, Kreisler, and Lafrenier at LW. What is the plan when Othman is NHL ready?
13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 46
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And how is this relevant to this post? If we trade Miller, it means we are re-tooling…


So? Does that mean the rangers have to overpay for him? The answer is NO. The poster claims all Ranger prospects are untouchable which is nonsense and then starts with the LMAO, so he gets it back. That's how it's relevant.
13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 48
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So? Does that mean the rangers have to overpay for him? The answer is NO. The poster claims all Ranger prospects are untouchable which is nonsense and then starts with the LMAO, so he gets it back. That's how it's relevant.


Ok and? How about you wait until trade deadline to talk about this. At this point, throwing random irrelevant attacks isn’t gonna get you very far
13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 50
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Quoting: aecliptic
Well, VAN fans keep going after either Schneider or Othmann both of whom arent going anywhere.


Im curious what the plan is for Schneider and Othmann because it seems like the Rangers are stacked at LW and RD
LW - Panarin, Kreider, Lafrienere
RD - Fox, Trouba, Lundkvist
13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 52
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Don’t you guys already have Panarin, Kreisler, and Lafrenier at LW. What is the plan when Othman is NHL ready?


Same question people ask about Schneider, because we have Fox and Trouba. The answer for both is this: They come up to the NHL and get valuable experience and playing time without having to be stars and get to learn from the likes of Fox, Trouba, Panarin and Kreider, and when they have matured enough, they REPLACE some of them. Schneider will end up replacing Trouba when his NMC burns off and if Othmann continues to improve like he has, he will replace Kreider, or play RW, or maybe Kreider will slide to RW. But those are bridges you cross when you come to them. If we short sightedly trade Othmann or Schneider, then they never get to those bridges, and Drury is smarter than that.
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 53
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Don’t you guys already have Panarin, Kreisler, and Lafrenier at LW. What is the plan when Othman is NHL ready?


Othmann plays both wings. He also just turned 19 years old. We have nothing but time and I hope they dont rush another 1st round pick into the lineup again and let him simmer in the AHL for a year. These ELC's will become incredibly important for the Rangers moving forward to skirt the cap.
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13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 54
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Ok and? How about you wait until trade deadline to talk about this. At this point, throwing random irrelevant attacks isn’t gonna get you very far


The Canuck fan is the one that started with the nonsense, I just gave it back to him. I'm happy to come back here after the TDL and discuss what team Schneider is playing on. If I'm wrong and he's in a Canuck sweater, I will admit I was wrong. Will you?
13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 55
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Quoting: Devil
Im curious what the plan is for Schneider and Othmann because it seems like the Rangers are stacked at LW and RD
LW - Panarin, Kreider, Lafrienere
RD - Fox, Trouba, Lundkvist


Whats the plan for Schneider? Hes bumped Lundkvist. Schneider was playing 20+ minutes with Lindgren when Fox was out, it wasnt Nils.
Othmann plays both wings. Also, it doesnt matter, hes gonna play in the AHL next year. I hope they dont make the same mistake with him and rush him.
13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 58
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says the marble that suddenly brings up our record lol


I know. JT is so great, and Horvat is so great and Boeser is so great, and Hughes is so great, yet they are a 0.500 team. Can't imagine why other teams don't want to give up the moon to acquire your players.
13 févr. 2022 à 12 h 59
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Whats the plan for Schneider? Hes bumped Lundkvist. Schneider was playing 20+ minutes with Lindgren when Fox was out, it wasnt Nils.
Othmann plays both wings. Also, it doesnt matter, hes gonna play in the AHL next year. I hope they dont make the same mistake with him and rush him.


Does Schneider play top 4 minutes over Trouba then? Because Im not sure how much he will develop as 3RD
Good to know about Othmann. CF has him listed as only LW
13 févr. 2022 à 13 h 4
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Does Schneider play top 4 minutes over Trouba then? Because Im not sure how much he will develop as 3RD
Good to know about Othmann. CF has him listed as only LW


The kid is already a stud.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/rangers_jacob_trouba_accurately_jokes_braden_schneider_could_replace_him/s1_15425_37009427

Enjoy the read. That was a month ago after only 2 games.
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13 févr. 2022 à 13 h 13
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Incorrect. Nils Lundqvist, Zack Jones, and Vitali Kravstov are all available. Just because Vancouver fans would rather have different Ranger prospects doesn't mean every prospect they have is untouchable. You don't like that Schneider and Othmann are not available is NOT a concern for Ranger fans. KEEP MILLER and the Rangers will go shopping elsewhere, like Vegas or Arizonia for a RW.


Is Hunter Skinner available?
13 févr. 2022 à 13 h 16
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Is Hunter Skinner available?


Sure
13 févr. 2022 à 13 h 54
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That must mean Chris Drury is better than Steve Yzerman right


Guess so
13 févr. 2022 à 14 h 1
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Well, VAN fans keep going after either Schneider or Othmann both of whom arent going anywhere.


Ok than. How bout Othmann???
Lol
21 févr. 2022 à 11 h 6
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Quoting: Fotiu4U
I know. JT is so great, and Horvat is so great and Boeser is so great, and Hughes is so great, yet they are a 0.500 team. Can't imagine why other teams don't want to give up the moon to acquire your players.


That is flawed logic. By that same logic, McDavid and Draisaitl havent been all that great for the large majority of their careers then either...

I can't speak for other Vancouver fans but for me Miller and Hughes are in the "so great" category, meaning very good - elite players in the league. People on this site saw (likely read, didn't actually see) one off year for Hughes last year and thought he was a one season wonder, he wasent, he's a number #1 defenseman. Some people still say Miller is a second line player, those people obviously havent been following Miller since he joined the Canucks or they are stuck in their own bias from previous viewings when he was with other teams.

As for Boeser and Horvat, I would not consider them to be in the "so great" category, but they both hold good value, Horvat more so than Boeser in my opinion. If I am a contender looking to add a 2 or 3C I would pay a good price for Horvat. He as he has been a very good matchup centre for years now, excels at faceoffs and plays his best in big games. Boeser's injury history would be a minor concern for me, he has been on pace to play over 70 games the last three years (played every game last year), it's his QA that would make me reconsider if I was another team. I don't think Boeser has proven he is worth his 7.5 QO, so unless he was willing to negotiate a a lower cap hit at longer term that QO would some impact on his value, especially to a cap strapped contender.
 
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