2nd is conditional: Becomes a first if Giroux plays 50% or more of playoff games and NYR reaches conference finals

This is a really good offer. Condition on the pick is perfect.

I know I've said in the past that Giroux always equals a first plus prospect, but this is like getting 2 first (but no risk) and a second that could be a first.

PHI says yes right off the bat, NYR really have to think about what the impact of losing Miller means to the team before committing.

This is my thinking as well. A little rich for NYR to give up, but he would be an immediate upgrade on the Panarin or Zibanejad line at RW. Additionally, with other contenders such as Colorado and others expected to pursue Giroux, I think that drives up the price for what is probably the best rental forward on the market in a long time. I could see NYR saying no, but I could also see them wanting to make a run before the Fox/Mika contracts kick in and there likely isn't a better piece available than G.

LOL No. Who trades within their own division??? Send him to LA or COL. Let them make the mistake....

It will always depend of when this kind of trade happen. Probably a little before or at the deadline trade. It will depend on how many team are in the race to get Giroux. There teams who will stop at nothing to pay for a player's when there teams who will try to go for a player and if it's too high price may go for cheaper version. For example a Toffoli could attract attention because he's a good winger with great offensif capacity at low cost money who could be easy to integrate in cap salary space.

If for example AVS go for Giroux, NyR could try to go for next one available which is price would probably go up as the time reduced.

That why it's hard to evaluate a player value near trade deadline so much data could change the fact. It's always who move first and at what cost.

The Rangers say no, laugh and hang up. They are not making a push. They are looking for trades with guys who have term on their contract, or will resign a reasonable contract. Othman is the steal of his draft. Miller is a long time 2nd pair with Rangers. Then you add a 2nd, for a guy who will be with them foe 2 months. Stop

Rangers fans, would you do this for JT Miller?

"It will always depend of when this kind of trade happen. Probably a little before or at the deadline trade. It will depend on how many team are in the race to get Giroux. There teams who will stop at nothing to pay for a player's when there teams who will try to go for a player and if it's too high price may go for cheaper version. For example a Toffoli could attract attention because he's a good winger with great offensif capacity at low cost money who could be easy to integrate in cap salary space.

If for example AVS go for Giroux, NyR could try to go for next one available which is price would probably go up as the time reduced

That why it's hard to evaluate a player value near trade deadline so much data could change the fact. It's always who move first and at what cost."


Agree with this but with so many contenders, fringe contenders and young teams, I fully expect a buyers market, and I think prices will be high.. but we'll see!

I really don't see a do it now push. If there was I think Drury would have already pulled the trigger on something, before the prices start going up at the deadline. Everybody in hockey says the Rangers are going to be a dangerous team in a year or 2 for a few years to come, and you think they should make the plunge for 1 cup now, because of Panarin. I don't think that is why Drury was brought in here, for a 1 cup run. Giroux would not be the only move like that. He doesn't put them totally over the top

What about Kravstov instead of Othmann?

No, I don't see a reason for the Rangers to after Giroux. Maybe Kravstov Lundkvist would be better. I think Miller is a Ranger for a long time.