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Ideal Deadline Returns

Créé par: SlafCaufZuki
Équipe: 2021-22 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 23 janv. 2022
Publié: 23 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Teams don’t matter in this case
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1.
MTL
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ANA)
ANA
  1. Chiarot, Ben
Détails additionnels:
Let’s be real someone will overpay for Chiarot… A first + an extra asset (prospect or later pick) will likely be the return.
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (ARI)
ARI
  1. Lehkonen, Artturi
Détails additionnels:
He’s low key been our most effective player this year, he will fetch a good return from a GM in the know
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Paquette, Cédric
  2. Perreault, Mathieu
  3. Wideman, Chris
Détails additionnels:
Late picks in return for these depth players (anything from a 3rd to a 7th)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2022 (BUF)
BUF
  1. Kulak, Brett
Détails additionnels:
Anything from a late 3rd to a 4th is likely, he’s pretty underrated
5.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Hoffman, Mike
Détails additionnels:
Don’t see why Hoffman would want to stick around a rebuild, but alternatively I could also see Drouin/Toffoli be moved. As long as one of them gets moved it’s fine.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $60 572 891 $597 561 $1 475 000 $20 927 109 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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UFA - 4
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
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917 831 $917 831 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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880 833 $880 833 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
C
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 5
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DG
RFA - 1
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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880 833 $880 833 $
G
RFA - 1
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761 250 $761 250 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
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7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 5
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1

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24 janv. 2022 à 12 h 41
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Quoting: ricochetii
I think Habs fans wanting Pelletier need to widen their view. He's francophone and producing well in the minors, but he's also 5'9. In a bubble, that's fine.
When your roster already includes Caufield and Gallagher for the foreseeable future, and you already have a number of undersized forwards in your system, you have to consider that smaller players' production typically translates at a lower rate at the NHL level, and a quarter of your roster (or more) will be smaller players.
That's going to limit line options and hold a bigger risk beyond simply production concerns.

For me, Pelletier is not a desirable target. He may be okay on another team, but Montreal has tended to use too many smaller players and I'd like to see us move away from that.

That is a very great argument I guess Zary would be great then
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24 janv. 2022 à 14 h 4
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None of these are blue chips prospects… A similar trade could be the Pacioretty one… since none of these prospects are Suzuki type good the second rounder and the contract dump could become a first rounder
The only deal I’d accept as Montreal is:
Toffoli-3rd round pick for Zary/Coronato/Pelletier,Lucic (no retention) and a 2022/2023 first round pick


Quoting: Marchy6363
None of these are blue chips prospects… A similar trade could be the Pacioretty one… since none of these prospects are Suzuki type good the second rounder and the contract dump could become a first rounder
The only deal I’d accept as Montreal is:
Toffoli-3rd round pick for Zary/Coronato/Pelletier,Lucic (no retention) and a 2022/2023 first round pick


Patches was and still is a far better player than Toffoli. Not comparable at all.

All 3 prospects are top 50 in the entire league.

That offer is horrendously bad for Calgary.
25 janv. 2022 à 23 h 27
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Patches was and still is a far better player than Toffoli. Not comparable at all.

All 3 prospects are top 50 in the entire league.

That offer is horrendously bad for Calgary.


Well Pacioretty went crazy after his trade and he asked for a trade too so his trade value wasn’t at his peak Toffoli’s value is at a peak right now
25 janv. 2022 à 23 h 50
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Patches was and still is a far better player than Toffoli. Not comparable at all.

All 3 prospects are top 50 in the entire league.

That offer is horrendously bad for Calgary.


Pacioretty was also at the end of his bargain contract. He would have returned more if he had 2+ seasons at $4.5M remaining.

I'd say Zary and a 2nd is a decent offer. Whether it is enough depends what other offers are available, but it's at least a consideration.

I'm leaning toward keeping Toffoli anyway at this point.
25 janv. 2022 à 23 h 59
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Well Pacioretty went crazy after his trade and he asked for a trade too so his trade value wasn’t at his peak Toffoli’s value is at a peak right now


More examples why they arent comparable, thank you. jT Miller to Vancouver is around what you should be looking at. Maybe a bit better
 
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