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Créé par: Leafsleaks123
Équipe: 2021-22 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 22 janv. 2022
Publié: 22 janv. 2022
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Bastian, Nathan
  2. Severson, Damon (2 000 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
If NJ doesn’t want to retain 2 mil then a team like Buffalo could retain 1 mil along with NJ
NJD
  1. Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon
  2. Hollowell, Mac
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
2.
TOR
    1 mil of retained salary
    BUF
    1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
    3.
    TOR
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (OTT)
    OTT
    1. Holl, Justin
    Détails additionnels:
    If Zaitsev can play top 4 for OTT, than anyone can
    4.
    TOR
    ARI
    1. Anderson, Joey
    2. Ritchie, Nick
    3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
    Détails additionnels:
    Ritchie still can provide some value in the right situation while Anderson gives the yotes a future solid third liner and there’s a 4th as a sweetener
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2281 500 000 $80 774 782 $0 $400 000 $725 218 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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    AG
    UFA - 2
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    11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
    C
    UFA - 3
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    10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 4
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    3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 2
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    11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 4
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    6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
    AD
    UFA - 3
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    1 645 000 $1 645 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
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    1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
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    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    900 000 $900 000 $
    AD, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    750 000 $750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    825 000 $825 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG
    NMC
    UFA - 1
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    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG/DD
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo de Devils du New Jersey
    2 166 666 $2 166 666 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    894 167 $894 167 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2

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    22 janv. 2022 à 14 h 55
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    Quoting: NHLfan10506
    Robertson+1st for Severson isn't a terrible offer if we were shopping him around. But we are not. So leafs would have to add a significant piece to convince them otherwise. Holl, Ritchie, etc would not be that significant piece. Niemela, Amirov, Knies probably would be.


    Keep em then. He's not worth more. The Devil's are not realistically that close to contending. So getting more good young pieces is wise but if you want an insane price for a 2nd pair defenceman, then you'll not get anything.
    22 janv. 2022 à 14 h 56
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    I think I have been very reasonable, despite all the name-calling and insults.


    Nylander would be the ask according to you. That is not remotely reasonable.
    22 janv. 2022 à 14 h 56
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    That’s more than what the Kings got for Muzzin, also a first is the asset that you could turn into a top-4 or top-6 guy


    At the time of the Muzzin deal, Durzi and Grundstrom were both top-5 prospects in Leafs pipeline, which was ranked higher then that it is now. Durzi was talked about as the smaller, puck-moving RHD, similar to Niemela today. Grundstrom was the physical, two-way winger much like Knies today.

    I posted some of the relevant links in this post
    22 janv. 2022 à 14 h 59
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    Nylander would be the ask according to you. That is not remotely reasonable.


    I have been 100% consistent in that it would take two good prospects and a pick. Little bit more with retention and/or cap dump.
    22 janv. 2022 à 15 h 14
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    I have been 100% consistent in that it would take two good prospects and a pick. Little bit more with retention and/or cap dump.


    So your list that included Nylander was just for ****s and giggles?
    22 janv. 2022 à 15 h 19
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    So your list that included Nylander was just for ****s and giggles?


    I made a long list of possible returns and wanted to include at least one one-for-one. If you did not like one of them, pick one of the others.
    22 janv. 2022 à 15 h 41
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    I made a long list of possible returns and wanted to include at least one one-for-one. If you did not like one of them, pick one of the others.


    Kerfoot 1 for 1 makes more sense. Nylander is worth a #1 or #2 defenceman. Not a 2nd pair guy. Come on. This is what I am talking about.
    22 janv. 2022 à 16 h 2
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    Kerfoot 1 for 1 makes more sense. Nylander is worth a #1 or #2 defenceman. Not a 2nd pair guy. Come on. This is what I am talking about.


    Kerfoot. Ha. Ok. Surprised you didn't say Holl 1-for-1 or Ritchie 1-for-1.
    22 janv. 2022 à 16 h 6
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    Kerfoot. Ha. Ok. Surprised you didn't say Holl 1-for-1 or Ritchie 1-for-1.


    I'm not being unreasonable here. I also am not going to combat unreasonable with ridiculous pendulum swings the other way. I am trying to have a reasonable conversation
    22 janv. 2022 à 16 h 10
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    I'm not being unreasonable here. I also am not going to combat unreasonable with ridiculous pendulum swings the other way. I am trying to have a reasonable conversation


    Over and over, you keep bringing up one of probably 100 combinations of players I have suggested.

    Be reasonable then and post an ACGM with what you think is a fair deal.

    Until then, adios
    22 janv. 2022 à 16 h 13
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    Over and over, you keep bringing up one of probably 100 combinations of players I have suggested.

    Be reasonable then and post an ACGM with what you think is a fair deal.

    Until then, adios


    I have said time and time again, Robertson, a 1st and a guy like Krall. If you guys don't want to retain, I'd get a 3rd party involved to do so. But I wouldn't offer more. It's a great deal for Jersey that gets than a highly touted young guy and more draft capital. Take it or leave it, but if you want Nylander or something insane like Knies, Niemela, a first plus you are just gonzo.
    22 janv. 2022 à 16 h 15
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    I have said time and time again, Robertson, a 1st and a guy like Krall. If you guys don't want to retain, I'd get a 3rd party involved to do so. But I wouldn't offer more. It's a great deal for Jersey that gets than a highly touted young guy and more draft capital. Take it or leave it, but if you want Nylander or something insane like Knies, Niemela, a first plus you are just gonzo.


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