We'll keep Bourgault and roll with Skinner, thank you

They aren’t winning anything with Skinner, at least with Allen you have a chance. That trade upgrades the Oilers considerably IMO

Allen: 5-16-0 with .911%
Skiner: 4-5-0 with .916%
If you watch his losses, you could see that Skinner was the guy that gave them a chance to win.

In the last 21 years, 3 rookies have won cups. Binnington, Murray and Ward. Skinner may be the guy eventually, but it likely won't be this year. Doesn't have to be Allen, but Smith and Koskinen have already proven to be unreliable.

Who said we are going to win the cup? Skinner has been reliable in all his starts.

Not saying they will win, but they should at least be attempting to.

How many teams has Allen led to the Cup? That's just a stupid argument against Skinner, never mind the horrible trade value expecting a very good recent 1st round pick for a career backup and a 3rd liner.

I didn't say this trade or Allen were the answer. I said Skinner isn't the guy and you can't count on Smith or Koskinen.

I do believe Lehkonen helps Edmonton a lot, and they can have him for multiple years. I also believe Allen would be a better option, but he's not the only possibility.

Solid no from Caps. Samsonov has his bast days ahead of him and Price hasn't even played a game this year. Between those two, I would choose Samsonov. And they certainly shouldn't add their top prospect and a 1st.

Let me sum this up:
1. Skinner is better than Allen, Allen is not the better option over Skinner, not now, not for the future either.
2. We are not giving up our 1st round pick AND a 2nd round pick for a 3rd liner and a decent backup goalie.
3. If we really need a guy like Lehkonen for our third/fourth line, We'll gladly trade for Lawson Crouse

Let me sum this up:
1. Skinner is better than Allen, Allen is not the better option over Skinner, not now, not for the future either.
2. We are not giving up our 1st round pick AND a 2nd round pick for a 3rd liner and a decent backup goalie.
3. If we really need a guy like Lehkonen for our third/fourth line, We'll gladly trade for Lawson Crouse[/quote]

Lehkonen is way more valuable than Lawson Crouse
If Skinner is so good, why are Koskinen and Smith still playing ?

Are they? Smith is on IR and Skinner is starting tomorrow night.

Lehkonen is way more valuable than Lawson Crouse
If Skinner is so good, why are Koskinen and Smith still playing ?[/quote]

I would like to know how Crouse is more valuable
Skinner is better than both of them, but Dave Tippett apparently like vets more and Smith is on IR and Skinner might start tomorrow

It takes more than 10 NHL games to make that evaluation. I believe in Skinner. Had my eye on him since before he was drafted. I wouldn't bet my season on him yet.

Edmonton giving up a 1st to solidify their roster, would at least be different. Maybe this isn't where to spend it, that's debatable. Why do you think Crouse would be any easier to acquire?

I would like to know how Crouse is more valuable
Skinner is better than both of them, but Dave Tippett apparently like vets more and Smith is on IR and Skinner might start tomorrow[/quote]

I think you meant how Lehkonen is more valuable than Crouse
Lehkonen is miles better than Crouse defensively, he is a better forechecker (Crouse hits hard, Lehkonen creates turn overs), Lehkonen is a hard working guy, like Gallagher, he works is ass off every single nights. Never took a night off since joining the team. Both can chip some offense but Lehkonen is a better 200 ft player. Work ethic 👌 The reason why this post is called not letting my feelings interfere is because I really don’t want to trade Lehkonen. Yes he lacks of finish, but he ain’t perfect. Lehkonen and Foegele would be a solid bottom six LW

I'd take Crouse for a 2nd and a young player than a 2nd and 1st for A BACKUP AND LEHKONEN. Kenny Holland said he isn't going to give up his first and he would NEVER do anything like this.
Skinner- With all the saves that he makes to keep EDM in the game, less than ten games or not, It's enough for me to prove he has gotten potential and he is already playing better than Mikko and Schmiddy and Allen. So, we'll be happy to roll with him.

Ok maybe the pick is too high, but getting a quality bottom six forward RFA + 2 years of Allen at a low caphit is worth Bourgault. Blake Coleman and Goodrow looked like overpay then and it’s with those kind of player that brought Tampa two cup back to back. Not always paying prime assets for some top 6 top 4 dman, sometimes (especially EDM), it’s the quality in the bottom six or bottom pairing that will make the difference. Toronto got come back because of a couple of bad turn overs from Dermott and Sandin. If they had a better veteran there they might have pass the Habs

I think you meant how Lehkonen is more valuable than Crouse
Lehkonen is miles better than Crouse defensively, he is a better forechecker (Crouse hits hard, Lehkonen creates turn overs), Lehkonen is a hard working guy, like Gallagher, he works is ass off every single nights. Never took a night off since joining the team. Both can chip some offense but Lehkonen is a better 200 ft player. Work ethic 👌 The reason why this post is called not letting my feelings interfere is because I really don’t want to trade Lehkonen. Yes he lacks of finish, but he ain’t perfect. Lehkonen and Foegele would be a solid bottom six LW[/quote]
I like Lehkonen's game a lot. But what our bottom 6 needs is production and scoring and Crouse has been better in that category.

I like Lehkonen's game a lot. But what our bottom 6 needs is production and scoring and Crouse has been better in that category.[/quote]

Fair enough

Edmonton has bottom 6 forwards who are capable of chipping in, just not from the other end of the ice. If they want to improve 5v5 and get more bottom 6 production, use the big guys at both ends. Two of the best players in the game don't need cush deployment. Take some pressure off the bottom 6.