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WSH Deal

Créé par: Sqm918
Équipe: 2015-16 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 3 août 2015
Publié: 3 août 2015
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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PIT
    2016 7th round pick
    2.
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2371 400 000 $70 020 833 $0 $4 282 500 $1 379 167 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 10
    6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 7
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    3 812 500 $3 812 500 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    AG
    UFA - 1
    2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 3
    3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
    AD, AG
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 2
    700 833 $700 833 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
    AD, C
    UFA - 2
    652 500 $652 500 $ (Bonis de performance235 000 $$235K)
    AD, AG
    UFA - 1
    667 500 $667 500 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    655 000 $655 000 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
    AG
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    894 167 $894 167 $
    DG
    UFA - 1
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    DD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 7
    5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
    G
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    DG
    UFA - 2
    2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    600 000 $600 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    600 000 $600 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 1

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    3 août 2015 à 21 h 56
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    Modifié 4 août 2015 à 9 h 59 par Banks
    Washington is in win now mode, why would they give up one of their best defencemen for an unproven rookie? And then why would they give up a second line winger in his prime for a guy whos about to retire. Horrilble, Horrible deal...
    3 août 2015 à 22 h 8
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    Modifié 4 août 2015 à 9 h 58 par Banks
    I would say that Alzner is their 3rd best defenseman behind Carlson and Niskanen. No better or no worse. Don't overvalue Alzner. Dumoulin is ACTUALLY one of the pens best defensive prospects. Yes, Johansson is a second line winger, but not on Washington. He will likely be on their 3rd line and he is overplayed for a 3rd liner. He can actually be a second line winger on Pittsburgh. Also, don't act like Kunitz is 45 years old. Yes, his career is concluding but he has 2 or 3 decent years left and don't forget about the rest of the trade. There is a guy by the name of Beau Bennett in there and who knows how his career will play out.
    3 août 2015 à 22 h 20
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    Win now mode means they want to win right now. Cant do that with prospects.
    3 août 2015 à 22 h 36
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    918: By your logic, the Pens wouldn't make this trade, but in reality, Dan is correct. And Scuds, seems like the Pens can't give him away, and no one wants to take on long term unproductive high priced guys. See what happens when 5 players take half the cap space.
    4 août 2015 à 10 h 1
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    Lets keep it civil guys, no flaming eachother please
    4 août 2015 à 10 h 13
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    Sorry Banks, just teaching the young-ens forum etiquette. Also, didn't know these were mediated which is assuring. Thank you.
    4 août 2015 à 10 h 27
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    Quoting: Dan_da_Man
    Sorry Banks, just teaching the young-ens forum etiquette. Also, didn't know these were mediated which is assuring. Thank you.


    You're welcome, there are a few mods watching the forums, for now we are trying to keep the forums not too strict, but if thread starts to get out of hand we will interject.

    To answer your other question:
    Quoting: Dan_da_Man
    I see all my forums were mediated by you Banks lol. Might I ask where you guys are located by the way. Just curious.

    We are located in the Eastern Ontario - Ottawa region.
    4 août 2015 à 10 h 35
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    A Senators or Canadiens fan I see. :o . Was asking cause if close by I would submit a resume but that's a little far for me. Thank you for filling the CapGeek void. Was very very happy when I found this site.
    4 août 2015 à 11 h 10
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    Have to agree with Dan on this one. In terms of current ability and potential, Alzner > Dumoulin and Johansson > Bennett and it's not even close. Don't forget Bennett and Dumoulin are both 23 years old. Calling them "prospects" at this point is kind of inaccurate. And Washington doesn't really have a need for Kunitz in it's top 6/9 that would justify the downgrade within the rest of the trade.

    Pens fans on here seem to really overvalue their younger players. Being a top prospect in the Pens system is still pretty average by most standards (except Pouliot of course).
    4 août 2015 à 18 h 22
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    Quoting: Dan_da_Man
    A Senators or Canadiens fan I see. :o . Was asking cause if close by I would submit a resume but that's a little far for me. Thank you for filling the CapGeek void. Was very very happy when I found this site.


    You're welcome I'm glad you are enjoying the site smile
    5 août 2015 à 10 h 10
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    Quoting: Jarett18
    Have to agree with Dan on this one. In terms of current ability and potential, Alzner > Dumoulin and Johansson > Bennett and it's not even close. Don't forget Bennett and Dumoulin are both 23 years old. Calling them "prospects" at this point is kind of inaccurate. And Washington doesn't really have a need for Kunitz in it's top 6/9 that would justify the downgrade within the rest of the trade.

    Pens fans on here seem to really overvalue their younger players. Being a top prospect in the Pens system is still pretty average by most standards (except Pouliot of course).


    Pens fans which I am seem to overvalue their veterans Kunitz and Scuderi.
     
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