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Dutchies inspired trade

Créé par: Dom9727
Publié: 3 déc. 2021 à 19 h 54
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 147/200 (74%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

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La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 21 757 143 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 10 634 167 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gallagher, BrendanCanadiens de MontréalExclus de la formation LNH-6 500 000 $011---0000--
Guhle, KaidenExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalJunior-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Kraken de SeattleSEA)---001------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial11 122 976 $2247714714
Variation6 500 000 $0-2-20-11
Final17 622 976 $ (↑)2245 (↓)69 (↓)46 (↓)15 (↑)000

Logo de Kraken de SeattleKraken de Seattle

DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Choix de 5e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Kraken de SeattleSEA)---001------
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Gallagher, BrendanCanadiens de MontréalExclus de la formation LNH-4 777 500 $011---0000--
Guhle, KaidenExempté du ballottageCanadiens de MontréalJunior-0 $011---0000--
Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (Logo de Canadiens de MontréalMTL)---010------
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial6 948 979 $2334413714
Variation-4 777 500 $02201-1
Final2 171 479 $ (↓)2336 (↑)43 (↑)38 (↑)13 (↓)000
3 déc. 2021 à 19 h 57
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Dutchies inspired this trade. Said Gally is a 3rd liner and I quote literally word for word: “Yeah, it's the perfect trade for MTL. It's garbage for DAL. You want a pick and a prospect and an expiring contract to dump a contract? First MTL should be paying the pick and prospect. “ so here is the deal, Habs need to give up very good assets in order to move this 30 goal scoring “3rd liner” Gallagher who is apparently a worthless cap dump at this point. 29 years old is the new 34.
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 12
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Waahhhhh......you called my crush a 3rd liner.

Dude, stop being so petty. This is a forum to post, discuss and evaluate. Not act like a 3 year old throwing a tantrum.
Grow up.
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 13
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Quoting: Dutchies
Waahhhhh......you called my crush a 3rd liner.

Dude, stop being so petty. This is a forum to post, discuss and evaluate. Not act like a 3 year old throwing a tantrum.
Grow up.


You were quoted word for word. Speak on that.
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 18
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You were quoted word for word. Speak on that.


There's no arguing with stupid. But you don't make a trade like you just posted. You make it bigger to make it work for both teams. But I guess your mind just can't work it's way around that.

And it's funny that you picked a team that had the cap space to make this trade work, cause it sure wouldn't work with Dallas.

Mic drop.........
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 24
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Quoting: Dutchies
There's no arguing with stupid. But you don't make a trade like you just posted. You make it bigger to make it work for both teams. But I guess your mind just can't work it's way around that.

And it's funny that you picked a team that had the cap space to make this trade work, cause it sure wouldn't work with Dallas.

Mic drop.........


Really? Dallas doesn’t have the cap space? Is this the same team that has Pavelski’s 7 mill coming off the books after this season and Radulov’s 6 mill coming off the book as well? With onlt Klingberg and a 3rd liner to resign? Klingberg probably gets 7-8 mill tops? That’s an increase of 3.5 mill… in what world do they not have enough cap space going forward? They will have plenty as well as two holes left by those two players to fill. Mic drop. Not only that but that argument would’ve been respectable. That wasn’t your argument. Your argument was that Gallagher is a third liner and the Habs would have to give up a pick and prospect just to move him. Don’t switch now that you’ve realized you’re wrong.
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 40
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Really? Dallas doesn’t have the cap space? Is this the same team that has Pavelski’s 7 mill coming off the books after this season and Radulov’s 6 mill coming off the book as well? With onlt Klingberg and a 3rd liner to resign? Klingberg probably gets 7-8 mill tops? That’s an increase of 3.5 mill… in what world do they not have enough cap space going forward? They will have plenty as well as two holes left by those two players to fill. Mic drop. Not only that but that argument would’ve been respectable. That wasn’t your argument. Your argument was that Gallagher is a third liner and the Habs would have to give up a pick and prospect just to move him. Don’t switch now that you’ve realized you’re wrong.


Dallas has 23 mil for 9 spots. Let's give Robertson the same contract as Suzuki. That drops it to 15.4 for 8. Klingberg gets at the low end $6. That's 9.4 for 7. Gurianov is arb eligible, so he's just under 3, so let's say 7 for 6. Gally's 6.5 makes it 500K for 5 players. And if they walk away from Guri, it's still only 3.5 for 5

Think that works? I know math and hockey knowledge isn't your strong suit............
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 45
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Quoting: Dutchies
Dallas has 23 mil for 9 spots. Let's give Robertson the same contract as Suzuki. That drops it to 15.4 for 8. Klingberg gets at the low end $6. That's 9.4 for 7. Gurianov is arb eligible, so he's just under 3, so let's say 7 for 6. Gally's 6.5 makes it 500K for 5 players. And if they walk away from Guri, it's still only 3.5 for 5

Think that works? I know math and hockey knowledge isn't your strong suit............


You’re forgetting Ben Bishop’s 5 million on ltir and the 1 mill increase to the cap next year so do I think 6.5 million for 5 players is enough? I sure do.
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 52
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You’re forgetting Ben Bishop’s 5 million on ltir and the 1 mill increase to the cap next year so do I think 6.5 million for 5 players is enough? I sure do.


Cap has not been guaranteed to increase, though it should. With all these young players signing at 7+ I'm sure owners have been told it'll be at $100 mil within 5 years. And they can't guarantee Bishop on LTIR. It's likely, but he still wants to play. If it was a Weber situation, yeah it's a guarantee, but Bishop might even be back this year.
3 déc. 2021 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: Dutchies
Cap has not been guaranteed to increase, though it should. With all these young players signing at 7+ I'm sure owners have been told it'll be at $100 mil within 5 years. And they can't guarantee Bishop on LTIR. It's likely, but he still wants to play. If it was a Weber situation, yeah it's a guarantee, but Bishop might even be back this year.


Slight error: the cap is guaranteed to go up 1 mill. That has been stated by Friedman. And you’re right I’m not entirely sure about Bishop’s future so in that case you could be right. That’s why it is a trade idea, it hinges on a few things falling into place. Again respectable argument. I’m done with this though. Wish you could’ve made a respectable argument from the beginning.
4 déc. 2021 à 11 h 22
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Quoting: Dom9727
Slight error: the cap is guaranteed to go up 1 mill. That has been stated by Friedman. And you’re right I’m not entirely sure about Bishop’s future so in that case you could be right. That’s why it is a trade idea, it hinges on a few things falling into place. Again respectable argument. I’m done with this though. Wish you could’ve made a respectable argument from the beginning.


Not really wanting to jump into this love affair, but the cap was also guaranteed to go up during the Covid year and it screwed a lot of teams because it didn't - only guarantee in life is Death and Taxes.
4 déc. 2021 à 18 h 19
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Not really wanting to jump into this love affair, but the cap was also guaranteed to go up during the Covid year and it screwed a lot of teams because it didn't - only guarantee in life is Death and Taxes.


It’s going up 1 mill.
4 déc. 2021 à 22 h 33
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It’s going up 1 mill.


Hey very could likely go up with the sponsorship deals etc they signed- just saying the same was said when covid hit smile
 
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