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My GM retool on the fly

Créé par: myteam
Date de création initiale: 28 nov. 2021
Publié: 28 nov. 2021
Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Explications
Over performing players EROD and DH are traded before they regress,
Rust to COL for Bowers/ TJ and bc a second is fair value, maybe a little overpayment
JZ for KANE at 50 percent retention is a gamble, but one I think will pay off
Isles trade is only to help them w a cheap LD
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. 2023 3e round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. Heinen, Danton
2.
PIT
  1. 2024 3e round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Rodrigues, Evan
3.
PIT
  1. Bowers, Shane
  2. Jost, Tyson
  3. 2024 2e round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Rust, Bryan
4.
PIT
  1. 2022 6e round pick (NYI)
NYI
  1. Riikola, Juuso
5.
PIT
  1. Kane, Evander (3 500 000 $ retained)
SJS
  1. Zucker, Jason
Rachats de contrats
  • Jack Johnson: 1 166 667 $
Enfoui
  • Casey DeSmith: 125 000 $ (1 250 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2481 500 000 $77 403 206 $0 $1 050 000 $4 096 794 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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Guentzel, Jake
6 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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Crosby, Sidney
8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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O'Connor, Drew
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 1
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Malkin, Evgeni
9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Kane, Evander
3 500 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
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Jost, Tyson
2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
RFA - 2
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Carter, Jeff
2 636 364 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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Kane, Evander
0 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Aston-Reese, Zach
1 725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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Blueger, Teddy
2 200 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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Bowers, Shane
925 000 $
C
RFA - 1
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Boyle, Brian
750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
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McGinn, Brock
2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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Simon, Dominik
750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Dumoulin, Brian
4 100 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
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Letang, Kris
7 250 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Jarry, Tristan
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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Pettersson, Marcus
4 025 175 $
DG
UFA - 4
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Marino, John
4 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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Lindberg, Filip
925 000 $
G
RFA - 2
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Matheson, Michael
4 875 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
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Ruhwedel, Chad
750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Friedman, Mark
725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 22
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Yeah TB has to send ABB DOWN when Kucherov and Point come back just to have $712cap space they pass and keep their 3. besides TB IS REALLY GOOD WITH 2-5 ROUND PICKS
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28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 24
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Modifié 28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 32. Raison: Forgot to add - not worth the long term assets for them to make this deal
I would say drop Bowers or the 2nd and value is there from a COL perspective. But they can't afford to resign him. The Avs have all kinds of capspace next yr, but it all disappears the year after. Rather keep Kadri and Nuke. Thats all the Avs can afford long term. They need to pick up expiring contracts and 1yr deals. Then Lock down 29.
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28 nov. 2021 à 23 h 24
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I’m no way shape or form should we take on Evander Kane. Especially not for that salary and especially not if we give up anything in the process.
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29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
Yeah TB has to send ABB DOWN when Kucherov and Point come back just to have $712cap space they pass and keep their 3. besides TB IS REALLY GOOD WITH 2-5 ROUND PICKS

No worries. It was a move made with the fact that TAMPA has little cap, and could help a little. Could easily deal to different team
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29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 31
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Quoting: LittleBuddha
I would say drop Bowers or the 2nd and value is there from a COL perspective. But they can't afford to resign him. The Avs have all kinds of capspace next yr, but it all disappears the year after. Rather keep Kadri and Nuke. Thats all the Avs can afford long term. They need to pick up expiring contracts and 1yr deals. Then Lock down 29.


How about Bowers & Jost?
Or Bowers & 2nd?
Or Bowers & Barron?
29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 33
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I’m no way shape or form should we take on Evander Kane. Especially not for that salary and especially not if we give up anything in the process.


Risk vs reward.
At this stage, I’ll take the risk. Otherwise, I’d stay away, but too little time left, too many bad deals.
29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 41
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Quoting: myteam
How about Bowers & Jost?
Or Bowers & 2nd?
Or Bowers & Barron?


OK, OK, Nope.
29 nov. 2021 à 10 h 44
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No worries. It was a move made with the fact that TAMPA has little cap, and could help a little. Could easily deal to different team


Wasn't being nasty just TB really has no space at all and getting a bottom 6 or anyone means they definitely loose off current roster and I really do not see them going that route.
29 nov. 2021 à 12 h 15
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Risk vs reward.
At this stage, I’ll take the risk. Otherwise, I’d stay away, but too little time left, too many bad deals.


So your logic is that we should make another horrible deal because we’ve recently made too many bad deals? Not sure about that logic there. It isn’t risk vs reward. You’re trading the better player and teammate for a locker room cancer who is close to being out of the league. It’s bad management.
30 nov. 2021 à 0 h 56
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So your logic is that we should make another horrible deal because we’ve recently made too many bad deals? Not sure about that logic there. It isn’t risk vs reward. You’re trading the better player and teammate for a locker room cancer who is close to being out of the league. It’s bad management.


My logic is:
Kane is the higher skilled player.
Kane plays a more physical game.
Kane scores more.
Kane gets more helpers.

Kane finds himself in the penalty box too often.
Takes too many off ice risks.
R wants to be star
30 nov. 2021 à 1 h 48
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Quoting: myteam
My logic is:
Kane is the higher skilled player.
Kane plays a more physical game.
Kane scores more.
Kane gets more helpers.

Kane finds himself in the penalty box too often.
Takes too many off ice risks.
R wants to be star


So again, your logic is to trade a guaranteed middle 6 winger for a guy that’s got 1 foot out the door of the league cause he is a dbag. E. Kane “wanting to be a star” is the least of his stupidity. He is a cancer and you don’t bring that into a locker room like the pens. Especially considering his contract. Anything more and league minimum is too much.
30 nov. 2021 à 4 h 44
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Bowers and a second is as much as you get. You don't get Jost as well.

Quoting: myteam
How about Bowers & Jost?
Or Bowers & 2nd?
Or Bowers & Barron?


You definitely don't get Barron.
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30 nov. 2021 à 21 h 57
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Bowers and a second is as much as you get. You don't get Jost as well.

Honestly, that imo is pretty fair, spot on value. It’s not what I exactly want, and it’s probably more than COL wants to give. So that tells me it’s probably spot on.
Unless Rust is injured, or goes on a scoring rampage.

You definitely don't get Barron.
30 nov. 2021 à 22 h 2
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So again, your logic is to trade a guaranteed middle 6 winger for a guy that’s got 1 foot out the door of the league cause he is a dbag. E. Kane “wanting to be a star” is the least of his stupidity. He is a cancer and you don’t bring that into a locker room like the pens. Especially considering his contract. Anything more and league minimum is too much.


You are spot on. But at heart most people care about Championships.
Truly, Kane sucks as a person, but can play hockey. And as long as he is pretty good at it, he will be in the league.

Even though, I think the sharks should be able to terminate the contract. And Kane should be barred from the league by the commissioner. Anything short of that, fans will forgive anything for championships, and that is where we are. 😢
 
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