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Lundell takes over

Créé par: Knuckl3s
Publié: 21 nov. 2021 à 14 h 19
Plafond salarial: 81 500 000 $
Journées à la saison: 159/200 (80%)
Détermination du registraire central: Cette transaction a rempli les différents critères exigés par le registraire central de la LNH.

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La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 1 666 667 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 718 319 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bennett, SamPanthers de la FlorideLNH-4 425 000 $111---0000--
Carlsson, LucasPanthers de la FlorideLNH-750 000 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dickinson, JasonCanucks de VancouverLNH-2 650 000 $111---0000--
Poolman, TuckerCanucks de VancouverLNH-2 500 000 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial948 348 $2339603414
Variation25 000 $000000
Final973 348 $ (↑)2339603414000

Logo de Canucks de VancouverCanucks de Vancouver

La transaction a eu lieu alors que la LTIR est utilisée
Allègement provenant de la liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR): 6 112 500 $
Portion de la LTIR utilisée avant la transaction: 4 762 500 $
DépartStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Dickinson, JasonCanucks de VancouverLNH-2 650 000 $111---0000--
Poolman, TuckerCanucks de VancouverLNH-2 500 000 $111---0000--
ArrivéeStatutSalaire retenuCap hit effectifFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Bennett, SamPanthers de la FlorideLNH-4 425 000 $111---0000--
Carlsson, LucasPanthers de la FlorideLNH-750 000 $111---0000--
VariationEspace sous le plafond salarialFormationSPCListe de réserveChoix 1e rd2e et 3e rd4e à 7e rdPJGAPMBA%EFF
Initial1 350 000 $2246663511
Variation-25 000 $000000
Final1 325 000 $ (↓)2246663511000
21 nov. 2021 à 14 h 59
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That's a fat no from the Panthers, lol. You aren't getting Bennett for free no matter how well Lundell plays
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21 nov. 2021 à 15 h 10
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That's a fat no from the Panthers, lol. You aren't getting Bennett for free no matter how well Lundell plays


Huh?? What do you mean getting Bennett for free? That's not what's happening here
21 nov. 2021 à 15 h 50
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Huh?? What do you mean getting Bennett for free? That's not what's happening here


Oh, so you seriously think Poolman and Dickinson are worth Bennett?
21 nov. 2021 à 18 h 35
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Oh, so you seriously think Poolman and Dickinson are worth Bennett?


Actually I do, Dickinson is a very good no. 3 Center and Poolman is a good 3rd pairing defenseman. As far as Bennett goes, I'm sold on him being a fringe no. 2 Centerman at most right now
21 nov. 2021 à 18 h 59
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Let’s just call this what it is, an attempt to escape Poolman’s contract. I don’t see why Florida is interested.
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22 nov. 2021 à 1 h 36
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Let’s just call this what it is, an attempt to escape Poolman’s contract. I don’t see why Florida is interested.


Actually Poolman's been playing decently this season, and I wouldn't have included Dickinson if I was suggesting Vancouver trying to dump Poolman, I would have included a 2nd or 3rd round pick instead and asked for a less valuable return
22 nov. 2021 à 2 h 38
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Actually I do, Dickinson is a very good no. 3 Center and Poolman is a good 3rd pairing defenseman. As far as Bennett goes, I'm sold on him being a fringe no. 2 Centerman at most right now


So how about Nutivaara and Luostarinen for Horvat? A 3rd pair dman and a 3rd-liner for a 2nd-line C. You should be jumping out of joy with that one.
22 nov. 2021 à 2 h 43
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So how about Nutivaara and Luostarinen for Horvat? A 3rd pair dman and a 3rd-liner for a 2nd-line C. You should be jumping out of joy with that one.


Nutivaara has been injured lately, he doesn't have much value simply because he hasn't been playing lately, not to mention he didn't have a good year last year, and Luostarinen still looks like only a no. 4 center to me. Okay here, the difference between Horvat and Bennett is that Horvat has a longer more reliable track record as a no. 2 center than Bennett has. Obviously, this trade would only make sense if Bennett was falling out of favor with the Panthers later in the season
22 nov. 2021 à 5 h 43
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Quoting: Knuckl3s
Nutivaara has been injured lately, he doesn't have much value simply because he hasn't been playing lately, not to mention he didn't have a good year last year, and Luostarinen still looks like only a no. 4 center to me. Okay here, the difference between Horvat and Bennett is that Horvat has a longer more reliable track record as a no. 2 center than Bennett has. Obviously, this trade would only make sense if Bennett was falling out of favor with the Panthers later in the season


Even if he was falling out of favor, the Panthers paid two 2nd rounders to acquire Bennett. They aren't letting him go for less than a 1st rounder+ since they bought a 4th-liner with potential and are now selling a 2C who has been ppg for them and is on track for 35 goals this season.

And if Lundell takes over, who wouldn't want a talent of Bennett's calibre as their 3C? Besides, were they selling Bennett, 30 other teams could come up with a more valuable offer.
22 nov. 2021 à 14 h 22
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Even if he was falling out of favor, the Panthers paid two 2nd rounders to acquire Bennett. They aren't letting him go for less than a 1st rounder+ since they bought a 4th-liner with potential and are now selling a 2C who has been ppg for them and is on track for 35 goals this season.

And if Lundell takes over, who wouldn't want a talent of Bennett's calibre as their 3C? Besides, were they selling Bennett, 30 other teams could come up with a more valuable offer.


Perhaps they would, and what do you mean the Panthers paid two 2nd rounders for Bennett? From my recollection, they paid one 2nd rounder and an AHL player in return for Bennett and a 6th rounder. They would certainly want at least a 1st rounder for Bennett right now, see how well that ages
22 nov. 2021 à 14 h 30
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Perhaps they would, and what do you mean the Panthers paid two 2nd rounders for Bennett? From my recollection, they paid one 2nd rounder and an AHL player in return for Bennett and a 6th rounder. They would certainly want at least a 1st rounder for Bennett right now, see how well that ages


They paid a 2nd and Emil Heinemann, whom they had drafted in the 2nd round few months prior, for Bennett.
22 nov. 2021 à 14 h 32
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They paid a 2nd and Emil Heinemann, whom they had drafted in the 2nd round few months prior, for Bennett.


Ah, I see, well it seems Heinemann isn't ever going to make the jump, he was probably more of a reclamation project than a legit prospect when the Panthers traded him
22 nov. 2021 à 14 h 34
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Ah, I see, well it seems Heinemann isn't ever going to make the jump, he was probably more of a reclamation project than a legit prospect when the Panthers traded him


Well, he was 19 when they traded him, I don't think they knew what he was back then. The Flames probably asked for two 2nds but didn't want to take picks in the 2022 draft as those prospects won't be anything until the midpoint of this decade.
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Well, he was 19 when they traded him, I don't think they knew what he was back then. The Flames probably asked for two 2nds but didn't want to take picks in the 2022 draft as those prospects won't be anything until the midpoint of this decade.


Mmm, makes sense I guess
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