If he has the puck all the time, he must be a defensive forward.
He has the puck in the O zone. That means he's not in the D zone. Which means he barely had to backcheck. Which means he was a dominate O zone player. If he never backchecked, then he was not a great two-way player.
Gretzky holds the record for most short handed goals. He played defensively, he was just so dominant he was always on the forecheck.
If he has the puck all the time, he must be a defensive forward.
He has the puck in the O zone. That means he's not in the D zone. Which means he barely had to backcheck. Which means he was a dominate O zone player. If he never backchecked, then he was not a great two-way player.
If you have the puck in the other zone, and they can't get it from you, how do they score? isn't that defence?
He has the puck in the O zone. That means he's not in the D zone. Which means he barely had to backcheck. Which means he was a dominate O zone player. If he never backchecked, then he was not a great two-way player.
Gretzky holds the record for most short handed goals. He played defensively, he was just so dominant he was always on the forecheck.
He has the puck in the O zone. That means he's not in the D zone. Which means he barely had to backcheck. Which means he was a dominate O zone player. If he never backchecked, then he was not a great two-way player.
Gretzky holds the record for most short handed goals. He played defensively, he was just so dominant he was always on the forecheck.
Yeah that's what I mean, he was so dominant offensively, that he didn't need to play defense. Hence why you can't call him one of the best two-way forwards such as Crosby, and so on.
He has the puck in the O zone. That means he's not in the D zone. Which means he barely had to backcheck. Which means he was a dominate O zone player. If he never backchecked, then he was not a great two-way player.
If you have the puck in the other zone, and they can't get it from you, how do they score? isn't that defense?
Well, you're technically not defending. You're attacking.
Kopitar is overrated... he makes freakin 10 million and is tied for 100th in scoring. That's crap for a guy making what.... the 3rd highest salary league wide? If I spent 10 million on a player I'd expect him to be in the top 20, not 100th.
You too?
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT ITS NOT ALL ABOOT POINTS AND THAT ITS A TEAM GAME AND SOMETIMES THE TEAM CANT SCORE IF THEIR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT.
He's one of the best two-way players in the game, along with Crosby as mentioned above. His main priorities are to protect center ice, just like Toews. That's why Crosby is the best... because he can do absolutely everything that is asked of him and do it like no else has done it before.
My team has one of the best 2 way players in Bergeron, I understand the value of defense, but if your paid 10 million you need to produce AT BOTH ENDS! Just because he's good defensively doesn't make up for his turd of a season offensively, that's impaired thought to believe that he can be so good defensively that he can be just decent offensively and still be underrated at 10 million. Give me a break man you need to wake up if you think he's underrated at his contract with what he's bringing. His lack of offense is one of the biggest reasons LA will miss the playoffs.
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT ITS NOT ALL ABOOT POINTS AND THAT ITS A TEAM GAME AND SOMETIMES THE TEAM CANT SCORE IF THEIR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT.
He's one of the best two-way players in the game, along with Crosby as mentioned above. His main priorities are to protect center ice, just like Toews. That's why Crosby is the best... because he can do absolutely everything that is asked of him and do it like no else has done it before.
My team has one of the best 2 way players in Bergeron, I understand the value of defense, but if your paid 10 million you need to produce AT BOTH ENDS! Just because he's good defensively doesn't make up for his turd of a season offensively, that's impaired thought to believe that he can be so good defensively that he can be just decent offensively and still be underrated at 10 million. Give me a break man you need to wake up if you think he's underrated at his contract with what he's bringing. His lack of offense is one of the biggest reasons LA will miss the playoffs.
Yeah, i read a prediction made in the last few days that someone made, and it had CGY missing the playoffs, and LAK making it ... i don't see that happening. If LAK makes the playoffs, STL or NSH falls out. But i think LA misses.
Vlasic? Not overrated or underrated in my opinion.
Spurgeon? Yeah, probably underrated.
Suter? Same as Vlasic.
McDonagh? Yeah, underrated.
Hedman? Same as Vlasic/Suter
Kucherov? Yeah, same as teammate, Hedman.
WHY DO PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT ITS NOT ALL ABOOT POINTS AND THAT ITS A TEAM GAME AND SOMETIMES THE TEAM CANT SCORE IF THEIR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT.
He's one of the best two-way players in the game, along with Crosby as mentioned above. His main priorities are to protect center ice, just like Toews. That's why Crosby is the best... because he can do absolutely everything that is asked of him and do it like no else has done it before.
My team has one of the best 2 way players in Bergeron, I understand the value of defense, but if your paid 10 million you need to produce AT BOTH ENDS! Just because he's good defensively doesn't make up for his turd of a season offensively, that's impaired thought to believe that he can be so good defensively that he can be just decent offensively and still be underrated at 10 million. Give me a break man you need to wake up if you think he's underrated at his contract with what he's bringing. His lack of offense is one of the biggest reasons LA will miss the playoffs.
Whilst you are right that he needs to step up in the offense department, you still don't understand that LA as a team is still a s*thole when it comes to goals. Only Carter is producing. That is it. As a player is he underrated compared to everyone else in terms of attention and skill set? Yes, very much so. Is his cap hit not up to par with what he should be doing? Obviously not. Like Banks said, this is probably just an off-year for him. He is usually very consistent.
Vlasic? Not overrated or underrated in my opinion.
Spurgeon? Yeah, probably underrated.
Suter? Same as Vlasic.
McDonagh? Yeah, underrated.
Hedman? Same as Vlasic/Suter
Kucherov? Yeah, same as teammate, Hedman.
So only one forward ... 5 D-Men.
"So only one forward ... 5 D-Men."
I would say 'in your opinion', but that right has been taken away from you now.
Vlasic? Not overrated or underrated in my opinion.
Spurgeon? Yeah, probably underrated.
Suter? Same as Vlasic.
McDonagh? Yeah, underrated.
Hedman? Same as Vlasic/Suter
Kucherov? Yeah, same as teammate, Hedman.
So only one forward ... 5 D-Men.
"So only one forward ... 5 D-Men."
I would say 'in your opinion', but that right has been taken away from you now.
What do you mean? why has everyone decided that i don't have an opinion?
More underrated players (also, i remove Nylander from my list. I don't know why i had him): Girardi, (marc) Staal, Pretty much every D-Man on the rangers, Backlund, Tavares.
Who does everyone think some of the more underrated NHL players are. For me, a lot of the defensive D-men that don't score much.
Anyway, here is a list of underrated NHL players (not ranked):
Cody Ceci, Jonas Brodin, Nicklas Backstrom, Kevin Klein, Anne Kopitar, Oliver Ekman-larsson, William Nylander, Kris Russell.
Who does everyone else think?
i personally think Max Pacioretty may be one of the most underrated players as he steadily scores 30 or more goals a season, but yet is rarely talked about, or at least it seems so to me.
Who does everyone think some of the more underrated NHL players are. For me, a lot of the defensive D-men that don't score much.
Anyway, here is a list of underrated NHL players (not ranked):
Cody Ceci, Jonas Brodin, Nicklas Backstrom, Kevin Klein, Anne Kopitar, Oliver Ekman-larsson, William Nylander, Kris Russell.
Who does everyone else think?
i personally think Max Pacioretty may be one of the most underrated players as he steadily scores 30 or more goals a season, but yet is rarely talked about, or at least it seems so to me.
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