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It's a BLUE Situation. Re-Creating The Culture.

Créé par: Mr_cap
Équipe: 2017-18 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 4 mars 2017
Publié: 4 mars 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Some BIG trades. Mostly smart trades.

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Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
66 200 000 $
11 800 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Pouliot, Benoit
  2. Slepyshev, Anton
Détails additionnels:
Pouliot and Lehtera are the same age, same years-similar # on contract. Oilers are getting a better player, Blues receive more cap space.

Slepyshev and Jaskin are also both similar. Both are dynamic but are in bad situations. Change of scenery. Blues save money.
2.
STL
  1. Scandella, Marco
Détails additionnels:
Ok so listen up:

Wild get rid of a Dman that they will be losing anyways.
They get an overpaid 3/4 liner for 2 years, a prospect who can become a really good top-6 forward and a 1st.

The only problem here is taking on Pouliot. An option can be buying him out or trading him plus retaining his salary even further than it's already retained.
MIN
  1. Pouliot, Benoit (1 200 000 $ retained)
  2. Sanford, Zachary
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (STL)
3.
STL
  1. Duchene, Matt (1 120 000 $ retained)
COL
  1. Husso, Ville
  2. Schmaltz, Jordan
  3. Sergeev, Dmitrii
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (STL)
  5. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Blues send a Dman that can turn into a top pairing defensemen, a goalie that had put up really good numbers in the A, and a decent prospect.
4.
STL
  1. Greene, Matt
Détails additionnels:
Both have 1-year remaining. Perron costs 1 mill more.
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Blues get Dman depth with good analytics.

LAK
  1. Perron, David
Détails additionnels:
LA get scoring help.
5.
STL
  1. Stuart, Mark
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Stuart's possession numbers are terrible. But the Blues save cap space with this. Has 1-year remaining.
WPG
  1. Bouwmeester, Jay
Détails additionnels:
Jets get a better LHD Dman for more money on a 2-year deal.

Side note: He's from Canada, so maybe he accepts a trade here.
6.
STL
  1. Calvert, Matt
  2. Jenner, Boone
Détails additionnels:
Every player here has 1-year remaining.

Blues get two depth players. Basically Stastny for Jenner.

CBJ
  1. Stastny, Paul
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Jackets get a defensive minded 2nd liner C that can put up points and would play well in Torts system.
7.
STL
  1. Johnson, Jack (973 967 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Has 1-year remaining.

Blues get a pretty good top-4 Dman for the year. Blues also give up more assets and will be exposed in the exp.draft.
CBJ
  1. Edmundson, Joel
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Jackets get rid of Johnson so to not lose a valuable asset in the exp.draft. In return, they get a serviceable LHD that can be left exposed and along with that they receive a 3rd.

Save cap space as well.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2018
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2019
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2274 300 250 $68 024 010 $0 $1 207 500 $6 276 240 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AG, AD, C
NTC
UFA - 4
4 880 000 $4 880 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
AG
UFA - 1
741 667 $741 667 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
AG, AD
RFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
C
UFA - 1
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
4 350 000 $4 350 000 $
G
UFA - 4
2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
6 200 000 $6 200 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
G
UFA - 1
3 383 176 $3 383 176 $
DG
UFA - 1
1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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4 mars 2017 à 23 h 42
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All of these are either bad for the Blues or the other team. There's no inbetween.
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All of these are either bad for the Blues or the other team. There's no inbetween.


How so? Explain.
4 mars 2017 à 23 h 52
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A lot going on here...
-I do like the Edmonton trade but I think Jaskin is far from "dynamic" even if he does find his game.
-Thats giving up quite a bit to get Scandella. Pretty much the Shattenkirk package and I don't think he's the same type of player as Shattenkirk.
-Colorado would want more than that for Duchene. Schmaltz is not going to be a top paring guy, and Sergeev.... They'd want someone more NHL ready (Parayko).
-No need to give up Peron especially for a guy whose played 29 games the past 2 seasons.
-The Bow trade is pretty bad for STL
-The Stastny trade makes no since either
-And why would the Blues give up one of their better young Defense Man for JJ???
None of this is any good guy....
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A lot going on here... I do like the Edmonton trade but I think Jaskin is far from "dynamic" even if he does find his game.
Thats giving up quite a bit to get Scandella. Pretty much the Shattenkirk package and I don't think he's the same type of player as Shattenkirk.
Colorado would want more than that for Duchene. Schmaltz is not going to be a top paring guy, and Sergeev.... They'd want someone more NHL ready (Parayko).
No need to give up Peron especially for a guy whose played 29 games the past 2 seasons.
The Bow trade is pretty bad for STL
The Stastny trade makes no since either
And why would the Blues give up one of their better young Defense Man for JJ???
None of this is any good guy....


This is where I think you went wrong.

Scandella is a good player - maybe not as good as Shatty - but yeah that might be too much for him, though you'd think Minny would ask for that much seeming as though you're dumping Pouliot to them.

No way St Louis gives up Parayko for Duchene. Colorado will get the same package as what Toronto got for Kessel. An A+ prospect and a couple of decent ones after. Schmaltz= A-, Husso= B. That is a good package for the Avs. Just some underrated names.

Point is to get Dman depth, and let the younger guys play more minutes.

Same thing. Let the younger guys play bigger minutes. And cap space clearance.

Again, let the younger/better guys play. More depth.

This one sorta goes against the above comments because the point was to get a decent veteran Dman that can play better than Ed. Columbus makes the trade knowing they lose him anyways so they basically gain a 3rd.

If you really put some thought into this.... it would make sense.
5 mars 2017 à 0 h 19
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A lot going on here... I do like the Edmonton trade but I think Jaskin is far from "dynamic" even if he does find his game.
Thats giving up quite a bit to get Scandella. Pretty much the Shattenkirk package and I don't think he's the same type of player as Shattenkirk.
Colorado would want more than that for Duchene. Schmaltz is not going to be a top paring guy, and Sergeev.... They'd want someone more NHL ready (Parayko).
No need to give up Peron especially for a guy whose played 29 games the past 2 seasons.
The Bow trade is pretty bad for STL
The Stastny trade makes no since either
And why would the Blues give up one of their better young Defense Man for JJ???
None of this is any good guy....


This is where I think you went wrong.

Scandella is a good player - maybe not as good as Shatty - but yeah that might be too much for him, though you'd think Minny would ask for that much seeming as though you're dumping Pouliot to them.

No way St Louis gives up Parayko for Duchene. Colorado will get the same package as what Toronto got for Kessel. An A+ prospect and a couple of decent ones after. Schmaltz= A-, Husso= B. That is a good package for the Avs. Just some underrated names.

Point is to get Dman depth, and let the younger guys play more minutes.

Same thing. Let the younger guys play bigger minutes. And cap space clearance.

Again, let the younger/better guys play. More depth.

This one sorta goes against the above comments because the point was to get a decent veteran Dman that can play better than Ed. Columbus makes the trade knowing they lose him anyways so they basically gain a 3rd.

If you really put some thought into this.... it would make sense.

These moves would set the Blues back big time. You don't just trade guys for depth and cap space especially when you're trying to compete like the Blues are. This team is no better now or for the future.
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This is where I think you went wrong.

Scandella is a good player - maybe not as good as Shatty - but yeah that might be too much for him, though you'd think Minny would ask for that much seeming as though you're dumping Pouliot to them.

No way St Louis gives up Parayko for Duchene. Colorado will get the same package as what Toronto got for Kessel. An A+ prospect and a couple of decent ones after. Schmaltz= A-, Husso= B. That is a good package for the Avs. Just some underrated names.

Point is to get Dman depth, and let the younger guys play more minutes.

Same thing. Let the younger guys play bigger minutes. And cap space clearance.

Again, let the younger/better guys play. More depth.

This one sorta goes against the above comments because the point was to get a decent veteran Dman that can play better than Ed. Columbus makes the trade knowing they lose him anyways so they basically gain a 3rd.

If you really put some thought into this.... it would make sense.

These moves would set the Blues back big time. You don't just trade guys for depth and cap space especially when you're trying to compete like the Blues are. This team is no better now or for the future.


Well if you think about it... how far have they gone in the past 5-7 years? Exactly. With the loss of Shatty, Oshie, Backes and Brouwer, they aren't going to get any further. They need to take a couple of steps back to take the next big step forward. That is exactly what Armstrong should do in the off-season. They are getting younger. "This team is not better now or for the future"? Really? Obviously you don't understand. If you can't see that this team is getting younger and faster then you can get back to believing the Blues will make the finals this year or the next. Which they won't with their current lineup.
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Why does everyone have such a boner for nail yakupov??
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Why does everyone have such a boner for nail yakupov??


haha he's still pretty skilled (except maybe his stickhandling). Just putting him in a position to succeed can maybe help him.
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Why does everyone have such a boner for nail yakupov??


I really don't know. The guy is a bust. The Jackets were extremely lucky to have gotten Ryan Murray.
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Why does everyone have such a boner for nail yakupov??


I really don't know. The guy is a bust. The Jackets were extremely lucky to have gotten Ryan Murray.


Well if you look at when he played with McDavid, he put up I think it was a point per game average. So him playing with centers that can get him the puck in the O zone can probably help him have success in terms of points.

Maybe putting him beside Sid or Backstrom would help him?

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