SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/Armchair-GM

With Everyone signed

Créé par: Poehling
Équipe: 2021-22 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 20 sept. 2021
Publié: 20 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de NYR
Logo de VGK
Logo de CHI
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
2023
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
2024
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
Logo de VGK
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 999 939 $285 772 $0 $4 500 061 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
725 000 $725 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
791 667 $791 667 $
DG
RFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
725 000 $725 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
885 000 $885 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Golden Knights de Vegas
750 000 $750 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner
20 sept. 2021 à 11 h 18
#1
exo2769
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 15,679
Mentions "j'aime": 9,827
Vegas will need to be cap compliant on Day 1 of the season unless Tuch isn't expecting to play at all in the regular season. Kucherov is the best example.
20 sept. 2021 à 11 h 54
#2
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2017
Messages: 1,849
Mentions "j'aime": 759
Quoting: exo2769
Vegas will need to be cap compliant on Day 1 of the season unless Tuch isn't expecting to play at all in the regular season. Kucherov is the best example.


is that the case, or do they just have to create cap room for Tuch right before he is ready to return?
in theory, they just need to trade Smith in parallel to Tuch's return, no?
exo2769 et Poehling a aimé ceci.
20 sept. 2021 à 12 h 52
#3
exo2769
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 15,679
Mentions "j'aime": 9,827
Modifié 20 sept. 2021 à 12 h 58
Quoting: Mike_Gartner
is that the case, or do they just have to create cap room for Tuch right before he is ready to return?
in theory, they just need to trade Smith in parallel to Tuch's return, no?


So, the 1st link below is my source. It's the NHL CBA. The most recent update is really just an extension and some edits to the original one done back in 2013. You are allow 10% flexibility in the offseason, but the day the season starts...you need to be cap compliant. Kucherov was a loop hole because he never played in the regular season. Seabrook will be another loophole. He's not comin back either.
https://www.nhlpa.com/the-pa/cba

Page 261 discusses the upper limit of the cap.

(ii) Upper Limit.
(A) With the exception of the 2012-13 Upper Limit, as set forth in Section 50.5(b)(ii)(A) above, the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception set forth in Section 50.10(d) and the Performance Bonus Cushion set forth in Section 50.5(h) below for all League Years under this Agreement, no Club shall at any point during a League Year be permitted to have an Averaged Club Salary that exceeds the Upper Limit of the Payroll Range.
(B) Nevertheless, in order to ensure that Clubs may have sufficient time and flexibility to plan their rosters during the off-season, the Upper Limit shall be temporarily raised by ten (10) percent to permit Clubs additional flexibility with their Averaged Club Salaries during the period from July 1 until and including the last day of Training Camp. On the day following the last day of Training Camp, the Upper Limit shall again be lowered to the level as calculated in Section 50.5(b), and all Clubs must once again be in compliance with the Upper Limit from the day following the last day of Training Camp until and including June 30.

BUT, If Vegas truly wanted to lawyer up...MAYBE there is a way they can argue that the daily accruing of the $2M in cap space will eventually be sufficient to fit in Tuch's Cap hit. I don't see that as a winning argument, but that's what lawyers are for.
20 sept. 2021 à 13 h 31
#4
total_knut
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2019
Messages: 255
Mentions "j'aime": 106
I wish the NHL and PA would just finally agree to pick a salary cap number that includes everyone....short term injuries, LTIR, EVERYONE! This daily accruing cap $$ is garbage. Trading for guys who will never play again is garbage. And the Kucherov "episode" wouldn't matter. You know it's a problem when teams have to hire a specific employee who is used for nothing more than the salary cap juggling act. And for us fans, it's a total headache.

One number. All in. Simple math. Do it NHL.
Poehling a aimé ceci.
20 sept. 2021 à 15 h 57
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: sept. 2017
Messages: 1,849
Mentions "j'aime": 759
Quoting: exo2769
So, the 1st link below is my source. It's the NHL CBA. The most recent update is really just an extension and some edits to the original one done back in 2013. You are allow 10% flexibility in the offseason, but the day the season starts...you need to be cap compliant. Kucherov was a loop hole because he never played in the regular season. Seabrook will be another loophole. He's not comin back either.
https://www.nhlpa.com/the-pa/cba

Page 261 discusses the upper limit of the cap.

(ii) Upper Limit.
(A) With the exception of the 2012-13 Upper Limit, as set forth in Section 50.5(b)(ii)(A) above, the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception set forth in Section 50.10(d) and the Performance Bonus Cushion set forth in Section 50.5(h) below for all League Years under this Agreement, no Club shall at any point during a League Year be permitted to have an Averaged Club Salary that exceeds the Upper Limit of the Payroll Range.
(B) Nevertheless, in order to ensure that Clubs may have sufficient time and flexibility to plan their rosters during the off-season, the Upper Limit shall be temporarily raised by ten (10) percent to permit Clubs additional flexibility with their Averaged Club Salaries during the period from July 1 until and including the last day of Training Camp. On the day following the last day of Training Camp, the Upper Limit shall again be lowered to the level as calculated in Section 50.5(b), and all Clubs must once again be in compliance with the Upper Limit from the day following the last day of Training Camp until and including June 30.

BUT, If Vegas truly wanted to lawyer up...MAYBE there is a way they can argue that the daily accruing of the $2M in cap space will eventually be sufficient to fit in Tuch's Cap hit. I don't see that as a winning argument, but that's what lawyers are for.


i don't think this is correct. with Tuch on LTIR, Vegas will be cap compliant.
in order for Tuch to come off LTIR they will have to move some money...

this is my interpretation, i could be wrong, but i don't think i am.
Poehling a aimé ceci.
20 sept. 2021 à 16 h 21
#6
exo2769
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2015
Messages: 15,679
Mentions "j'aime": 9,827
Modifié 20 sept. 2021 à 17 h 55
Quoting: Mike_Gartner
i don't think this is correct. with Tuch on LTIR, Vegas will be cap compliant.
in order for Tuch to come off LTIR they will have to move some money...

this is my interpretation, i could be wrong, but i don't think i am.


I'm actually having this exact conversation on another post too. So if grammatically something does read accurate...sorry about the grammer, but the CBA does go into illustrations. See below.

I'm going to quote the CBA and put in BOLD a few parts to keep in mind. Page 291 goes into examples of different kinds of LTIR situations. Obviously the cap amount adjusts based on the year.
https://www.nhlpa.com/the-pa/cba

Prior to Opening Day Illustrations:

Illustration #4: The Upper Limit in a League Year is $70.0 million. A Player who has an SPC with an Averaged Amount of $2.0 million becomes unfit to play on the last day of Training Camp, and on the same day, his Club exercises the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception on such Player. On Opening Day, the Club has an Averaged Club Salary of $71.5 million (excluding Earnable Performance Bonuses up to the full amount of the Performance Bonus Cushion). The Club is deemed to have already fully replaced the unfit-to-play Player with any Player or Players on the Opening Day Roster. If these replacements are maintained through the conclusion of the season, the Club's Averaged Club Salary is $71.5 million, as the Club is permitted to exceed the Upper Limit by $1.5 million because of the Bona-Fide Long-Term Injury/Illness Exception.

Illustration #4 is the "summer" LTIR method. If Tuch is sent to LTIR on the last day of Camp...summer...then Vegas has reached the cap ceiling. Where is the cap space to bring him back during the season? If we copy the illustration above, but put in exact values. $81.5M limit, but a current cap hit as of today is 82,737,439...THEN Tuch gets sent to LTIR on the last day of training cap with a cap hit of $4.75M...Vegas enters the season with a cap hit of $81.5M. They don't have any place for him to come back when he's healthy.


***EDIT*** The only way I see Vegas being able to keep Tuch on the Roster is actually a bit of a role reservsal. Max out the # of Slide eligible players on your roster while also keeping everyone you intend to keep. THEN send Tuch to LTIR in the summer...THEN slide down everyone you play on sending to the AHL. Maybe that's an option.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Ajouter une option
Soumettre le sondage