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A goalie for god sakes

Créé par: ArrBeeEye
Équipe: 2021-22 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 18 sept. 2021
Publié: 19 sept. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
EDM
  1. Getzlaf, Ryan (1 500 000 $ retained)
  2. Gibson, John
ANA
  1. Kassian, Zack
  2. Koskinen, Mikko
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (EDM)
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2022
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2023
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2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 372 801 $669 339 $2 350 000 $1 127 199 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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NMC
UFA - 7
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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1 175 000 $1 175 000 $
AD
RFA - 1
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1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 500 000 $$2M)
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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850 000 $850 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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785 000 $785 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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20 sept. 2021 à 15 h 31
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I accept the criticism for tagging along with the "strong" goalie characterization. You didn't say this in this thread and I have absolutely no recollection of your hinting that in any other thread.

The point UBS_ARENA made remains unchallenged, not merely disproven: Koskinen is no more than a backup with little NHL experience and there is a world of difference between him and John Gibson, which is a reality you still refuse to accept, and which you try to dispute by citing essentially irrelevant statistics. And that's not even beginning to take into account the ramifications of Gibson's 6-year term and Koskinen's pending UFA status.


Gibson's 6 year term works against him IMO, making his contract all the harder to sell. Would Lucic have more value if he had another 6 years left? LOL.

And I've never argued that Koskinen has more tenure than Gibson, only that his performance over the past 2 years has been every bit as good - which is factually correct - and that Gibson has not been performing up to his contract, nor to NHL average, since 2018 - which is factually correct. You stating that I'm citing irrelevant statistics is just willfully ignorant take on every single thing that I've written on the subject. You're clearly not an objective observer here. The statistics, however, are purely objective, which is why I look to them frequently to see what is going on.
20 sept. 2021 à 15 h 42
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Quoting: CD282
Gibson's 6 year term works against him IMO, making his contract all the harder to sell. Would Lucic have more value if he had another 6 years left? LOL.

And I've never argued that Koskinen has more tenure than Gibson, only that his performance over the past 2 years has been every bit as good - which is factually correct - and that Gibson has not been performing up to his contract, nor to NHL average, since 2018 - which is factually correct. You stating that I'm citing irrelevant statistics is just willfully ignorant take on every single thing that I've written on the subject. You're clearly not an objective observer here. The statistics, however, are purely objective, which is why I look to them frequently to see what is going on.


Implying that Milan Lucic and John Gibson are analogous is just embarrassing.

Saying that Koskinen's performance (which is trending down) and Gibson's (which is trending up) are equivalent is manipulating the numbers by averaging. That's the sort of cherry-picking you do which I refer to as citing irrelevant statistics. If you want to average numbers out like that, Gibson's career stats would support the position that he's still elite, which you deny and which I am willing to concede has some merit.

Statistics are not objective when they're abused, or misapplied, or misunderstood.
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20 sept. 2021 à 16 h 36
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The adult thing to do would be to apologize for calling me out for something I didn't say.

@OldNYIfan - you too.


Quoting: OldNYIfan
I accept the criticism for tagging along with the "strong" goalie characterization. You didn't say this in this thread and I have absolutely no recollection of your hinting that in any other thread.

The point @UBS_ARENA made remains unchallenged, not merely disproven: Koskinen is no more than a backup with little NHL experience and there is a world of difference between him and John Gibson, which is a reality you still refuse to accept, and which you try to dispute by citing essentially irrelevant statistics. And that's not even beginning to take into account the ramifications of Gibson's 6-year term and Koskinen's pending UFA status.


Well said. I second that sentiment.
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