I dont know if ZAR gets you one of those guys let alone both (and the 5th throw in)

ZAR is a bottom 6 guy barely. In 4 NHL seasons, at the age of 27, hes never played 60 games, nor cracked 20 pts.

Seems to me he's not dissimilar from Engvall, Mikheyev and dozens of other roster filler. Hes an NHLer, but I don;t think hes worth more than a 3rd.

He's actually a pretty solid bottom 6er, better than Engvall for sure and Mikheyev at the moment. Smart and can play center, hits, good skater, and he is definitely not a fringe guy. Picking 60 games as a benchmark is weird too because neither of the last 2 seasons had 60 games as a full schedule