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Créé par: Bradshaw97
Équipe: 2021-22 Avalanche du Colorado
Date de création initiale: 6 août 2021
Publié: 8 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
42 100 000 $
Transactions
1.
COL
  1. Dubé, Dillon [Droits de RFA]
CGY
  1. Compher, J.T.
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (COL)
2.
SJS
  1. Burakovsky, André
  2. Kaut, Martin
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (COL)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Détails additionnels:
This is the Starting point for a more defensive second line player who can still score and get to dirty areas, I love Burky but he had so much trouble in the playoffs getting time and space to get his shot off. Swap is for two players who are in last year of contracts, this would obviously be a feeling out process to see what is appropriate compensation, if sharks are not bringing Hertl back then I could see this trade happening, sort of hard to see until season gets underway.
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2022
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Logo de COL
2023
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Logo de COL
Logo de COL
2024
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $79 478 130 $1 741 463 $3 632 500 $2 021 870 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 300 000 $6 300 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 250 000 $9 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
908 333 $908 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 2
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
809 167 $809 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
725 000 $725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
875 000 $875 000 $
DG/DD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Avalanche du Colorado
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
C
RFA - 1

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8 août 2021 à 9 h 39
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flames decline easily. They don't need a 3rd liner for a young top 6 winger
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flames decline easily. They don't need a 3rd liner for a young top 6 winger


they decline, I agree, but Dube isnt a top 6 winger yet. He is a good middle 6er with upside. Despite how people claim compher is bad, is Dube is a top 6 winger, him and compher had almost identical production last season. What does that make compher?
8 août 2021 à 10 h 7
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they decline, I agree, but Dube isnt a top 6 winger yet. He is a good middle 6er with upside. Despite how people claim compher is bad, is Dube is a top 6 winger, him and compher had almost identical production last season. What does that make compher?


Dube developed a lot this season unlike compher. Dube's at the end of the season was way better the Compher. Sure most of the season they were equal but I'm 90% sure Dube will be a top 6 winger for Calgary next year
8 août 2021 à 10 h 9
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flames decline easily. They don't need a 3rd liner for a young top 6 winger


Dube has potential.. he’s not a top six winger yet, his highest scoring year has been 22 points.. albeit in 51 games. The 3rd and a center with comphers ability is that far off?
8 août 2021 à 10 h 11
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Dube has potential.. he’s not a top six winger yet, his highest scoring year has been 22 points.. albeit in 51 games. The 3rd and a center with comphers ability is that far off?


yes. Its far off. Young wingers like that aren't coming cheap
8 août 2021 à 10 h 13
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Dube developed a lot this season unlike compher. Dube's at the end of the season was way better the Compher. Sure most of the season they were equal but I'm 90% sure Dube will be a top 6 winger for Calgary next year


time on ice is what dictates a top 6er, not line on a paper, I think we all can agree on that. And last season Dube was 8th in TOI for Calgary fwds (8th also in 5v5), even behind Lucic. Them adding Coleman, I cant see him stealing ice time from Coleman, Mangiapane, Gaudreau, Tkachuk for wingers. He will take the next step in his development for sure, but to say he will be a top 6er next season, either something really good happened to him or something really bad happened to that group of wingers
8 août 2021 à 10 h 14
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Dube developed a lot this season unlike compher. Dube's at the end of the season was way better the Compher. Sure most of the season they were equal but I'm 90% sure Dube will be a top 6 winger for Calgary next year
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Compher looked the same when he was at Dube point in his career, his contract year he scores at pace with Dube and goes off in playoffs for some clutch goals against the Flames and sharks. Don’t get me wrong compher is not on level with Dube but to say he’s completely top six material and compher is liability is lack of Armchair GM’ing prowess on your part.

Quoting: KeepUps15
Dube developed a lot this season unlike compher. Dube's at the end of the season was way better the Compher. Sure most of the season they were equal but I'm 90% sure Dube will be a top 6 winger for Calgary next year
8 août 2021 à 10 h 17
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Compher looked the same when he was at Dube point in his career, his contract year he scores at pace with Dube and goes off in playoffs for some clutch goals against the Flames and sharks. Don’t get me wrong compher is not on level with Dube but to say he’s completely top six material and compher is liability is lack of Armchair GM’ing prowess on your part.


if you think that, you should probably just keep Compher
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if you think that, you should probably just keep Compher[/quote

Well that’s what I said in last post. “He’s not on level with Dube” it’s just funny how you make a hard line statement like it’s a ridiculous offer and when we are trying to debate, you point out you should just keep hi.. it’s all make believe anyway, this is all predicated if flames wanted to change up and what an offer for Dube would start with..
8 août 2021 à 11 h 5
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Hertl is not a defensive second line center. Hes a legit 1C who can score PPG if hes healthy and on a good team.
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Hertl is not a defensive second line center. Hes a legit 1C who can score PPG if hes healthy and on a good team.


He’s great on pp and pk what I was meaning is he’s more defensive than Burakovsky so he’s got that two way game locked and on the avalanche he wouldn’t supplant mackinnon for 1C so yes he is our 2C with Kadri. Hypothetically what would compensation be for Hertl in your mind
8 août 2021 à 11 h 13
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He’s great on pp and pk what I was meaning is he’s more defensive than Burakovsky so he’s got that two way game locked and on the avalanche he wouldn’t supplant mackinnon for 1C so yes he is our 2C. Hypothetically what would compensation be for Hertl in your mind


COL's 1st is basically a 2nd so they'll be adding another prospect and it will be a top prospect or its not happening.

To COL: Hertl
To SJ: 1st, Compher, Newhook.

We're losing out best forward and most popular player-that will cost the Avs.
8 août 2021 à 11 h 21
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COL's 1st is basically a 2nd so they'll be adding another prospect and it will be a top prospect or its not happening.

To COL: Hertl
To SJ: 1st, Compher, Newhook.

We're losing out best forward and most popular player-that will cost the Avs.


Again Hertl is a rental for one season I’d like to sign him after but to give up newhook would be deal breaker.

SJ: Hertl

Col: 1st ‘23, + any two combo of compher, jost, additional 1st ‘24, Burakovsky, Barron, Olousson,
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8 août 2021 à 11 h 23
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Again Hertl is a rental for one season I’d like to sign him after but to give up newhook would be deal breaker.

SJ: Hertl

Col: 1st ‘23, + any two combo of compher, jost, additional 1st ‘24, Burakovsky, Barron, Olousson,


Burakovsky, Barron, Olousson and a 1st might do it. Signing Tomas is easy going to be 7.5x7.
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Burakovsky, Barron, Olousson and a 1st might do it. Signing Tomas is easy going to be 7.5x7.


Oh I’m sorry I meant just two of this possible options on top of the ‘23 1st. but it would be hard to pry Hertl from sj he’s awesome
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Oh I’m sorry I meant just two of this possible options on top of the ‘23 1st. but it would be hard to pry Hertl from sj he’s awesome


It's doubtful he's moved. Escpecially if Kane has his contract voided or bought out. If that happens Hertl is staying long-term no doubt. I live in Denver so if he is traded to the avs at least I'll get to see him lol.
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Oh I’m sorry I meant just two of this possible options on top of the ‘23 1st. but it would be hard to pry Hertl from sj he’s awesome


Wait so you're an avalanche fan in california and I am a sharks fan in colorado. Interesting. Sorry I creeped your profile.
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Dube developed a lot this season unlike compher. Dube's at the end of the season was way better the Compher. Sure most of the season they were equal but I'm 90% sure Dube will be a top 6 winger for Calgary next year


so he had a hot streak
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Quoting: KeepUps15
Dube developed a lot this season unlike compher. Dube's at the end of the season was way better the Compher. Sure most of the season they were equal but I'm 90% sure Dube will be a top 6 winger for Calgary next year


Nah he won't be
Gaudreau Lindholm Tkachuk
Mangiapane Monahan Coleman is my top 6
 
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