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Shatty TDL Discussion

Créé par: A_K
Équipe: 2016-17 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 24 févr. 2017
Publié: 24 févr. 2017
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
I'm beating a dead horse, but I just want the band-aid ripped off!!!

The way I understand it, NYR/TOR/BOS/TBL are still in on Shattenkirk, and unless it's just a ploy, GM Armstrong has almost guaranteed that he will be traded. It will be as a rental, since Shatty has apparently declined a few sign-and-trades.

Am I crazy to expect returns like these? Please discuss...

Edit: I added a few more destinations, but I'm just spitballing on the returns. Needs work...
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STL
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (NYR)
2.
STL
  1. Dermott, Travis
  2. Leipsic, Brendan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (TOR)
TOR
    Shattenkirk
    3.
    STL
    1. Cehlárik, Peter
    2. Zboril, Jakub
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (BOS)
    BOS
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2017 (STL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Shattenkirk
    4.
    5.
    STL
    1. Pouliot, Derrick
    2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (PIT)
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
    PIT
      Shattenkirk
      6.
      STL
      1. Andrighetto, Sven
      2. Beaulieu, Nathan
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (MTL)
      MTL
        Shattenkirk
        7.
        STL
        1. Reinhart, Griffin
        2. Slepyshev, Anton
        3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (EDM)
        EDM
          Shattenkirk
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          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          3373 000 000 $69 487 084 $190 000 $4 627 500 $3 512 916 $
          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
          5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
          AG, AD, C
          NTC
          UFA - 1
          3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
          C, AG
          NTC
          UFA - 2
          3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
          AD
          UFA - 7
          5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
          AG
          UFA - 5
          4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
          AG, C
          UFA - 3
          3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
          AD, AG
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          3 700 000 $3 700 000 $
          C, AG
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
          1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
          AD
          UFA - 2
          900 000 $900 000 $
          AG
          UFA - 1
          950 000 $950 000 $
          C
          UFA - 2
          1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 2
          925 000 $925 000 $
          AG, AD, C
          UFA - 3
          894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
          AG
          UFA - 2
          2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          653 333 $653 333 $ (Bonis de performance207 500 $$208K)
          AG
          UFA - 1
          839 167 $839 167 $
          C
          UFA - 4
          650 000 $650 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          742 500 $742 500 $ (Bonis de performance232 500 $$232K)
          AG, AD
          RFA - 3
          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
          AG, AD
          RFA - 2
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
          DG
          UFA - 3
          6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 4
          2 350 000 $2 350 000 $
          G
          UFA - 1
          1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
          DG/DD
          UFA - 2
          5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
          DG
          NTC
          UFA - 3
          1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
          G
          UFA - 2
          894 167 $894 167 $
          DG/DD
          UFA - 4
          1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          894 167 $894 167 $
          DG/DD
          UFA - 4
          858 750 $858 750 $
          DD
          UFA - 1
          894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
          DG/DD
          UFA - 1
          863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
          DG
          UFA - 1
          1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
          DG/DD
          UFA - 1
          863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance2 350 000 $$2M)
          DG
          UFA - 1

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          24 févr. 2017 à 11 h 12
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          That's 2x Shatty has screwed us (last yr vetoing the trade to EDM for Hall and now the Tampa deal which included Johnson I do believe). Anyway, extremely doubtful NYR gives up Buchnevich, Not crazy about the TOR deal although I think you're definitely in the right ballpark, the BOS deal would be a steal but maybe a bit too much of an ask, and the Tampa deal isn't enough IMO. If I'm trading with Tampa I want a Johnson or Palat coming back. But I agree, get it done already (I hear EDM and MTL are aggressively pursuing as well. That just gets better for us Blues fans)
          24 févr. 2017 à 11 h 47
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          Quoting: JFo
          That's 2x Shatty has screwed us (last yr vetoing the trade to EDM for Hall and now the Tampa deal which included Johnson I do believe). Anyway, extremely doubtful NYR gives up Buchnevich, Not crazy about the TOR deal although I think you're definitely in the right ballpark, the BOS deal would be a steal but maybe a bit too much of an ask, and the Tampa deal isn't enough IMO. If I'm trading with Tampa I want a Johnson or Palat coming back. But I agree, get it done already (I hear EDM and MTL are aggressively pursuing as well. That just gets better for us Blues fans)


          Agree with you, it was likely TJ coming back in the sign-and-trade. And he would be an awesome add.

          I love Shatty but I don't understand what he's doing... going after another $0.5M per year? He's been so spoiled - playing with the shield of Petro (and now Parayko) to take on the tough match-ups so he gets the juicy PT, and now he's declined opportunities to play with young, rising teams with McDavid/Drai and Stamkos/Kucherov? To be close to home? I get that he's earned his UFA status, but he's being treated like one already. He's calling all the shots.
          24 févr. 2017 à 11 h 54
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          Thanks again Shattenkirk!!!

          I don't get it. Shattenkirk gave a list of teams he would resign with to Armstrong. TB is obviously one of those teams. 7 years @ 6 million isn't enough? Wtf

          I'm starting to think Shattenkirk is blowing smoke up Army's rear saying he'll sign elsewhere and he's hell bent on UFA.
          24 févr. 2017 à 14 h 7
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          I have a feeling Shattenkirk is going to hold out for 7.5...and some dumbass will pay. I like Armstrong but this is on him giving way too much say to a player who doesn't have a NTC. Anyways, the 2 new deals are just ok..Reinhart is an AHLer and gotta hold out for Juulsen or Schebak in the Mtl trade. And don't get me started on the Berglund extension.
          27 févr. 2017 à 8 h 0
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          To all the people saying "Shattenkirk has screwed us again", he doesn't owe anything to the Blues. He's going to be an unrestricted free agent, he has every right to say no to a sign and trade deal. I've been a Blues fan all my life, but I certainly don't think Shattenkirk owes us a damn thing. He's earned the right to be a free agent and go anywhere he wants for how much he wants/someone is willing to give him.
           
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