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Équipe: 2021-22 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 3 août 2021
Publié: 3 août 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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PIT
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. Tarasenko, Vladimir
  3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (STL)
STL
  1. Pettersson, Marcus
  2. Zucker, Jason (825 000 $ retained)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (PIT)
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PIT
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Lafferty, Sam
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
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PIT
  1. Pospisil, Martin
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach [Droits de RFA]
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
Détails additionnels:
No point to waste NHL ready player's value if they don't have room or cap space for them to play - move them for futures. I do think CGY has need for a defensive winger and a decent LHD after losing Ryan and Giordano
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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3 août 2021 à 16 h 41
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Blues decline Zucker not needed just an add one A higher paid player in petterson is swap for scandella doesnt make sense
3 août 2021 à 16 h 46
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Blues decline Zucker not needed just an add one A higher paid player in petterson is swap for scandella doesnt make sense


So just drop Zucker and Scandella from the trade? I mean I don't see PIT declining that, but I also don't see the point for STL to do it.
3 août 2021 à 16 h 51
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So just drop Zucker and Scandella from the trade? I mean I don't see PIT declining that, but I also don't see the point for STL to do it.


Obusaly add more too the trade like a second or a prospect
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Calgary definitely doesnt need more defensive wingers or LD. Not horrible value though as I do like POJ, just not really a need for the Flames, Ryan was replaced by Coleman and Pitlick, Gio was already possibly being pushed down to the 3rd pair if he was still on the team this year
3 août 2021 à 16 h 57
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Calgary definitely doesnt need more defensive wingers or LD. Not horrible value though as I do like POJ, just not really a need for the Flames, Ryan was replaced by Coleman and Pitlick, Gio was already possibly being pushed down to the 3rd pair if he was still on the team this year


Given the contract Coleman was given he's not going to be brought there as a defensive forward, but more as a goal scoring power forward. Pitlick is fair game.

Statistically speaking Ryan was elite defensively and so was ZAR not so long ago, so I do see a potential place as a 3LW for the guy.
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Obusaly add more too the trade like a second or a prospect


There is a 2nd added.

So would you take a Pettersson+Björkqvist(or insert other prospect of close to similar value)+2nd for Senko+5th?
3 août 2021 à 17 h 1
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There is a 2nd added.

So would you take a Pettersson+Björkqvist(or insert other prospect of close to similar value)+2nd for Senko+5th?


That would be fair i think
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3 août 2021 à 17 h 8
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Given the contract Coleman was given he's not going to be brought there as a defensive forward, but more as a goal scoring power forward. Pitlick is fair game.

Statistically speaking Ryan was elite defensively and so was ZAR not so long ago, so I do see a potential place as a 3LW for the guy.


I still stand by Calgary being a frontrunner for Eichel which will result in Lindholm probably centering the 2nd line with Mangiapane and Coleman, to me that is a very strong shutdown line while also being strong offensively.

I agree ZAR is very very strong defensively statistically speaking but so is Pitlick. My only issue with ZAR is that he blocks our young prospects like Pelletier (or Dube if not traded) from having a roster spot if the plan is to play him with Backlund.
Here is ZAR vs Pitlick over the last 3 years
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It does show ZAR is better WAR wise but defensively they are both pretty similar, it also shows Pitlick took a dip from previous years likely due to playing under Tocchet. Pitlicks QoC is also way higher showing that he played against much stronger competition
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I still stand by Calgary being a frontrunner for Eichel which will result in Lindholm probably centering the 2nd line with Mangiapane and Coleman, to me that is a very strong shutdown line while also being strong offensively.

I agree ZAR is very very strong defensively statistically speaking but so is Pitlick. My only issue with ZAR is that he blocks our young prospects like Pelletier (or Dube if not traded) from having a roster spot if the plan is to play him with Backlund.
Here is ZAR vs Pitlick over the last 3 years
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It does show ZAR is better WAR wise but defensively they are both pretty similar, it also shows Pitlick took a dip from previous years likely due to playing under Tocchet. Pitlicks QoC is also way higher showing that he played against much stronger competition


That also, to some extent, make asset Dube great for the potential Eichel trade. I also do believe Eichel will end up in CGY due to them having the pieces to acquire him, the need and the cap space. I could see them rolling these kind of lines for foreseeable future

Gaudreau-Eichel-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Lindholm-Coleman
Pelletier-Backlund-AstonReese
Lucic-Lewis-Pitlick

Hanifin-Andersson
Joseph-Tanev
Välimäki-Zadorov

This assuming that assets like Monahan, Dube, Zary and picks are involved in a potential Eichel 3-way trade.
3 août 2021 à 17 h 31
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That also, to some extent, make asset Dube great for the potential Eichel trade. I also do believe Eichel will end up in CGY due to them having the pieces to acquire him, the need and the cap space. I could see them rolling these kind of lines for foreseeable future

Gaudreau-Eichel-Tkachuk
Mangiapane-Lindholm-Coleman
Pelletier-Backlund-AstonReese
Lucic-Lewis-Pitlick

Hanifin-Andersson
Joseph-Tanev
Välimäki-Zadorov

This assuming that assets like Monahan, Dube, Zary and picks are involved in a potential Eichel 3-way trade.


Dont see Lewis playing center, Gawdin or Ruzicka probably get the 4C role. I see Lewis rotating in and out with Ritchie on the 4th line. Pitlick will likely be paired with Backs on the 3rd line.

POJ probably isnt top 4 ready, just like Valimaki, hence why Zadorov was brought in.

Like I said before, I don't think the trade is bad just dont really see it happening because I think Calgary already did a pretty decent job at filling those lost depth holes
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3 août 2021 à 17 h 33
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