& how do you expect to re-sign Zibanenad, Kakko, and Fox after the upcoming season, plus pay the $2M in overages from your bonuses into next season? ... this is horrible cap management.

I think Mika walks. Bridge everyone to 3 year deals. Kakko isn’t worth more than $3 mil on a 3 year deal. Fox could be bridged $7 mil for 3 years. Young guys will step up. Odds are most bonuses won’t be paid out cause I don’t see most of these guys hitting them. Bridge Laf and Miller and Kravtsov. Probably could do without signing Coleman cause of the cap. If we didn’t have Kreider or Trouba than sure, but that’s not our case.

That's why I put that I didn't like it for what it does for the rest of the team. Guess I should have put the rfa's. I'm not saying Eichel is not good. Just that we should change everything just for him. And there will have to be more changes because of the rfa's. Can't keep them all.

If the cap didn’t exist I’d be all for it, but unfortunately we have to think of the cap implications which are pretty serious for this team.

its also a horrible trade for buffalo

You really think Dox is taking a bridge deal after Makar and Heiskanen just signed huge long term deals? .. you're nuts if you do.

Why not? MacAvoy took one. So did Werenski. Despite him being that important I’m not blowing up the entire team for him. This is when we see how bad he wants to play in NY. Take a little less by taking a bridge and then cash in big once the cap goes up in 3-4 years. It means he’d get a $7 mil by 3 years which takes him to 27. Then an 8 year deal at like $11-12 mil which takes him to 35. I’d think that’s more than fair and not even a discount, but FMV (fair market value).

You cant rely all on Shesterkin

Because his comparables will directly be Makar and Heiskanen.. who he just beat out for the Norris Trophy. Pay up with money and term or you're likely losing him

That’d be his prerogative then. I’ll take the 4 picks of compensation then. And use the cap to address the center position.

Ah yes the *dumb* fan way of looking at it... "I'd rather have 4 picks who may or may not work out over a Norris Trophy winner" .. great way to build a franchise! Great way to lose!

You're not gonna win when 5 guys take 50-60% of the cap and leave you with no room for any depth. That's how you get bounced in the 1st round every year.

5 players accounting for $42.125M of an $81.5M cap which is 51.6%... that's Tampa. & I think they'd have something to say about being bounced in the first round considering they're back to back champs.

But sure, go on believing you can underpay good players just because you don't wanna pay. It's not like they want money at all and are totalling gonna just listen to you 🙄

Edit: hell you can even add a 6th player on that list which would bring the total to $48.875M which is 60% of the cap and they still won back to back.

Um Hedman, Point, Kucherov, Stamkos and Vasi are far superior to Mika, Panarin, Fox and Shesty. You're forgetting the awful contracts of Trouba and Kreider that are the problem. It's not even a comparison.

You just said you can't pay 5 players over 50% of the cap and now you're taking it back when I gave you an example because you can't admit you were wrong. Nice.

And you mention the bad contracts of Trouba and Kreider yet Tampa had McDonagh playing the same role as Trouba does for New York (McDonagh is overpaid) and Tampa had Johnson playing 4th line minutes and being highly overpaid. How is that not comparable? Just because you were wrong? Classy.

No I said it wouldn't work for us. The Rangers would have Panarin at $11.643 mil, Trouba at $8 mil, Kreider at $6.5 mil, Mika on extension would be $8.5-10 mil and Fox on extension $8.5-10 mil and then Shesty at probably $5.5-6.5 mil. The Rangers would not be able to field a deep enough team to contend with that much cap going to those guys. None of Tampa's guys are overpaid so that's a poor example, especially when the Rangers have 2 guys who are overpaid.

Johnson is overpaid, but McDonagh is most certainly not overpaid.

That's not what you said, as clearly made by the forts quote here.

& how do you not think Johnson or McDonagh are overpaid? Wow. You can't even admit to that? Have a nice night bud.

I get what you both are saying but technically Tampa was over the cap by $18,000,000

I was referring to the 5 you mentioned. Johnson is the only bad contract on that team. McDonagh is fantastic, his contract is just 2 years too long, but certainly not overpaid.

And you're the one who started this entire conversation when all I said was that Fox could take a bridge and then cash in bigger. Which is entirely possible. Neither of us know what he's thinking so it doesn't make what I say impossible.

No they weren't. They were cap compliant all season or they would have had to forfeit games.