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overhated trade

Créé par: yorobbie132
Équipe: 2021-22 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 23 juill. 2021
Publié: 23 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
22 250 000 $
55 000 000 $
36 500 000 $
37 000 000 $
2900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
2900 000 $
22 000 000 $
33 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
could be any team without a 2nd goalie
SJS
  1. Holtby, Braden (2 150 000 $ retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Gerbe, Nathan
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
could also be any other team, just picked CBJ to fill their hole for Jones
CBJ
  1. Schmidt, Nate
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Frais appliqués
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2022
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de TOR
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2023
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de CBJ
Logo de VAN
Logo de SJS
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
2024
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
Logo de VAN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $78 460 659 $648 780 $1 900 000 $3 039 341 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
891 667 $891 667 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 875 000 $5 875 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
1 225 000 $1 225 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
725 000 $725 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
825 000 $825 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
7 260 000 $7 260 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 5
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
900 000 $900 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 14
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Why would we trade Schmidt for that package?
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 17
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Why would we trade Schmidt for that package?


Why would we want Schmidt for that package. He’s declining for 2 years and at a hefty cap when our left side is more than set. We now have bean werenski and gavy on the left. The right is fine as well. We got kukan peeke and boqvist which isn’t great but we’re rebuilding we don’t need him especially at the expense of a second.
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 19
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Why would we want Schmidt for that package. He’s declining for 2 years and at a hefty cap when our left side is more than set. We now have bean werenski and gavy on the left. The right is fine as well. We got kukan peeke and boqvist which isn’t great but we’re rebuilding we don’t need him especially at the expense of a second.


i made this team earlier today before the bean & jones trades (i was just speculating jones gone, didn't expect boqvist) so it isn't so much on CBJ now, but as I stated in the trade it could be to any team, not just CBJ.
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23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 20
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i made this team earlier today before the bean & jones trades (i was just speculating jones gone, didn't expect boqvist) so it isn't so much on CBJ now, but as I stated in the trade it could be to any team, not just CBJ.


Gotcha didn’t look at the times. I assumed it was after due to the context layed out.
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 20
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Quoting: BigShoots
Why would we trade Schmidt for that package?


we acquired him for just a 3rd, i'd happily take a 2nd & a 4th in return for him. gerbe wasn't that necessary as i forgot about gadjovich lol
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 22
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Gotcha didn’t look at the times. I assumed it was after due to the context layed out.


No worries. your franchise took 2 huge W's today, Jones contract makes OEL look like a bargain. and I'm still very high on Bean
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23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 23
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Why would we want Schmidt for that package. He’s declining for 2 years and at a hefty cap when our left side is more than set. We now have bean werenski and gavy on the left. The right is fine as well. We got kukan peeke and boqvist which isn’t great but we’re rebuilding we don’t need him especially at the expense of a second.


You may not want him, the point was more from the Canucks perspective. It would be pointless to trade a top 4 dman for nothing.
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 24
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we acquired him for just a 3rd, i'd happily take a 2nd & a 4th in return for him. gerbe wasn't that necessary as i forgot about gadjovich lol


You have to think though that we need a defenseman if he goes. So why not trade him for an NHL defenseman. It can be a downgrade, like a Nutivaara but lets get someone who can play the right side if we are trading him, otherwise keep him, he is actually pretty good.
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 30
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You have to think though that we need a defenseman if he goes. So why not trade him for an NHL defenseman. It can be a downgrade, like a Nutivaara but lets get someone who can play the right side if we are trading him, otherwise keep him, he is actually pretty good.


definitely not a bad idea, and I sort of explored it, but I think they'd be better off just getting higher picks for him, then signing a right handed shot in free agency & also bringing back hamonic, both on cheaper contracts. i'm definitely a big schmidt fan and I definitely think he is more capable than what he showed last year on a struggling Canucks D, but i'd rather spend 5-7M on 2 right shot D this off season then keep schmidt for just under 6M for the next few years, especially since we're now committed to OEL for 6 years.
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 41
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definitely not a bad idea, and I sort of explored it, but I think they'd be better off just getting higher picks for him, then signing a right handed shot in free agency & also bringing back hamonic, both on cheaper contracts. i'm definitely a big schmidt fan and I definitely think he is more capable than what he showed last year on a struggling Canucks D, but i'd rather spend 5-7M on 2 right shot D this off season then keep schmidt for just under 6M for the next few years, especially since we're now committed to OEL for 6 years.


I agree but there aren't really any good RD in free agency and surely with an asset like Schmidt you could find a RD who is a 4-5 d somewhere and just straight swap. They'd get the better player we would save some cap. We are in win now mode a pick for Schmidt doesn't make a lot of sense.
23 juill. 2021 à 23 h 57
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I agree but there aren't really any good RD in free agency and surely with an asset like Schmidt you could find a RD who is a 4-5 d somewhere and just straight swap. They'd get the better player we would save some cap. We are in win now mode a pick for Schmidt doesn't make a lot of sense.


yes we should now be playoff contenders but we definitely aren't in win now mode yet man. our 2 franchise pieces are 22 and 21, our window isn't for a minimum of 3 more years. and getting picks for schmidt makes up for the ones we gave up for OEL & Garland,
24 juill. 2021 à 12 h 47
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yes we should now be playoff contenders but we definitely aren't in win now mode yet man. our 2 franchise pieces are 22 and 21, our window isn't for a minimum of 3 more years. and getting picks for schmidt makes up for the ones we gave up for OEL & Garland,


The window starts now. We just got a 30 yr old dman at 7 mil who is declining. We need able bodies on the right side of defense over picks.
 
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