If we take this from a realistic approach:

1) yes sign Landy

2) trade tarasenko for a second line winger and Dunn for a 1st round pick

3) Sign a 3rd LW as a stop gap before Neighbours comes in

4) Das it

I’m talkin

Schenn - ROR - Perron
Landy - Thomas - Eberle* for example
Parise* - Sunny - Kyrou
Cliff - Barb - Kostin
Krug - Faulk
Mikkola - CP55
Scandella - Bort
JB and Husso

You’d also most likely lose Blais to SEA

You're taking a lot of discounts. We would need to offload Scandella at least, and I don't think Army will swallow his pride and look to do that. Also Army won't expose Faulk or Krug for the same reason. Dunn will be traded, like 99% sure. Tarasenko, I also believe there's legitimate redemption for him, but it sounds like he doesn't want to do it in STL, so he's likely dealt as well.

Yeah Tarasenko to NYI sounds very much like it’s gonna happen and Dunn would fit in the East somewhere too

I think we've got a similar outlook of the team overall. We do not need to blow the thing up. If Vladi absolutely has to go then we just find a way to patch the hole and likely save some cap space for a depth player. Mikkola should make the roster but realistically he's a scratch. Bortuzzo isn't even really a guy I trust to be in the lineup every night. We'd need someone more reliable/proven on that bottom pairing. That why I feel it's easy to just stick Dunn in and delegate Scandella to 3rd pairing. Losing Blais sucks but isn't too big of a deal really.

I get it. Marron would have come back at under a mill, we just never offered it. I really think Bozak would be too. A lot of the other guys are still price controlled. Schwartz pay cut doesn't have to be quite that big but I think he'd come back for a little less, if not there's good free agent options. I really don't see trading Tarasenko being the net positive others think it'd be. I think it's a huge loss we don't really have to take if the price is too low. We can always trade him later (when his value likely goes up) Dunn we probably lose but maybe not, who knows, he's been in rumors a couple times now and nothing happened. And you're dead on with Scandella lol

Unfortunately, we would lose Dunn to SEA unless we do a 4-4-1 and protect ROR, Perron, Thomas and Kyrou. But that leaves Schenn exposed so losing him for nothing is creating a bigger hole to fix than trading away Dunn and losing a depth forward. If we did lose Schenn Blues would have to sign Landy and another top 6 F and somehow acquire a top 6 F via Tarasenko trade. unless both Thomas and Kyrou makes the jump but I think one stays on the 3rd line at least. That’s just too many changes in the top 6 and we’d lose out most likely on another year of Cup contention. Changes are necessary for sure but adding 1-3 new forwards isn’t too complex just depends where they sit in the lineup

I think this is most likely scenario even though I think signing Landy is pretty hopeful. Swap Schenn and Landy so Schenn and Thomas can trade off favorable draws.

Man, I saw a mock trade of Tarasenko for Konecny and a second line of Konecny Landy and Thomas would be lethal. But, you’re right Landy is a hopeful signing most likely won’t happen so someone like Palms or Saad could fit into that top LW spot with ROR and Perron

I also think we re-sign Bozak on low cap instead of re-signing Barby. He can be sent somewhere, same with Sanford, and Blais gets selected by SEA.

I’d want a 3rd for Sanford and a pair of late picks for Barb if we keep Bozie for a 4th line center

No way PHI does that. We likely deal for something involving Eberle or DeBrusk imo. If I’m looking for a LW signing, we should go in on Tatar. He might sign for as low as $4M considering his benching in MTL, and he’s easily worth at least $5M.

1.Binner
1.O'Reilly
2.Perron
3.Schwartz
4.Schenn
5.Thomas
6.Tarasenko
7.Kyrou
1.Dunn
2.Parayko
3.Krug
This is the appropriate 7-3-1 right? Free agency is after expansion right? And Kraken can only take one? I know exposing Sunny and Barbie is risky but we could fill that hole.

We don't protect Schwartz, hes a UFA. Tarasenko I believe will be traded and we likely acquire someone that is protected in his place. And like i said earlier, I don't think Army will swallow his pride and expose Krug or Faulk. We have to trade Dunn or lose him for nothing.

Yeah, we would not protect Schwartz due to his FA status and we would either decide to protect Sunny or Blais. Also, from a GM and player relationship perspective it looks really bad to give up on a LT contract signing 1-2 years out. It creates a lack of trust as a player coming to an organization that has the tendency to ship out LT contract players. It’s like why would you sign to a team and buy a house for 7 years only to be traded in 2 years time

I wouldn't expose Krug either. His contract is big but he still has +value. And Schwartz could resign before protected list go in and be protected, he's probably still our best bet on that second line. they have been talking to him about an extension lately and if they do sign him, he'll be protected. Dunn isn't my biggest concern, he can stay or go but he is relatively proven and used to our system, is also still price controlled so he's relatively cheap for what he can give you. We don't have to lose him at all but maybe we should trade him for something if the price is right.

It's a gamble that they don't pick up Faulks contract. He doesn't have a no movement clause does he? Serious question. He might feel weird about it but he'd still be under contract and I'm sure he'd understand the nuance of the decision. I agree though, Faulk likely doesn't get exposed, so then you have to trade Dunn because that's who Seattle would grab 100%.

GMs have a reputation to keep, Krug and Faulk won't be exposed, Army will commit to those contracts. I think we want Krug and Faulk next year anyways. Faulk had a big bounce back last year and I think Krug will do the same next year.

I made an edit. Idk if Dunn fetches a 1st or not but I know boston really wanted him, either way I have him leaving now. I think Suter could be a perfect 1 year player to go after, after his buyout it makes sense since you're losing Dunn. Suter is still a very strong 2 way defenseman who would add some size, depth and shuffle play back into the D core. Also ignor me leaving Vladi here. If he goes either Kyrou is the guy or we use that cap space or trade value to find another fit on the second line like you both were suggesting. His cap space to me is what should be most valued, so nothing involving retaining salary and would even go as far as sweetening the pot so Kraken pick his full contract up if I can't find anything else. This would have us protecting what most are projecting. Schwartz to me is still really the biggest question mark whether he signs or not.

If what you say is true about Faulk, Krug, and Scandy, then what happens when Seattle selects Parayko?

That's a misunderstanding. Scandella won't be protected, but my point is he won't actively tried to be dealt.

I never said I'm exposing Parayko. (Sorry thought this was directed at me, even so don't think the other guys mentioned exposing parayko either

Sorry guys, I've been screwing around with this thing a whole lot just see all the other WILDER options and the auto save has changed what was originally posted quite a bit lol

Not at all feeling the Hoffman and Barrie signings. Not what we need, let alone for 11% of the cap.




Dude, Barby is worth more than Sanford. And I have no idea why we'd just throw him out anyway.

Not giving a 1st for Dunn. Keep him.

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