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Adding Eichel and Coleman

Créé par: Kalilwayne
Équipe: 2021-22 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 2 juill. 2021
Publié: 2 juill. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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BUF
  1. Carrier, William
  2. Glass, Cody
  3. Tuch, Alex
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (VGK)
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VGK
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (NYR)
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VGK
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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VGK
  1. Mikheyev, Ilya
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (TOR)
TOR
  1. Fleury, Marc-André
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2021 (CAR)
Détails additionnels:
Seattle retains $3.5m on Fleury and receives Toronto's 2nd round pick.

Vegas receives Mikheyev.

Toronto receives Fleury at $3.5m and VGK's 5th.
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2 juill. 2021 à 14 h 24
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I think that VGK could easily get Eichel but you likely will have to swap out Tuch and Carrier for Krebs and Smith.

Also I dont think you get either of those UFAs for that price
2 juill. 2021 à 16 h 25
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Pretty sure this team is over the cap. You don’t have Fleury retention on the books and are less than a million from the cap ceiling.

Might get Martinez for that but I expect he gets close to a million more. Coleman should get 4-4.5 in a world that currently appreciates his style of game more than it used to.

From a trade standpoint as a Leafs fan I think value is there with the retention. Not sure it makes sense for Vegas though.
2 juill. 2021 à 16 h 46
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That fleury trade is bad for vegas. We can get more for him, but I ultimately think it’s Lehner that gets moved.

Love getting coleman. I think that’s close for Eichel; probably need to add NJD2nd and another prospect not named Krebs.
2 juill. 2021 à 16 h 52
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Quoting: Meeqs
I think that VGK could easily get Eichel but you likely will have to swap out Tuch and Carrier for Krebs and Smith.

Also I dont think you get either of those UFAs for that price


As a VGK fan I would actually prefer to give up Smith and Krebs because of Tuch's age and contract. I'm actually not sure why Buffalo would want someone Smith's age (as good as he is) when they're a ways off from contending.

As for UFA prices, they're definitely on the lower scale of what both players can make but I think Martinez would probably prefer to stick around for slightly less if it's reasonable. Coleman can get more but I was thinking that the 5 year term might bring his AAV down a bit if there were a modified NTC included. Also, have to remember that there's no state tax in Nevada so that can potentially be an advantage, Coleman making $3,750,000 in Vegas would probably mean more take home money than getting over $4m somewhere with state taxes.
2 juill. 2021 à 16 h 54
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Quoting: jempey82
Pretty sure this team is over the cap. You don’t have Fleury retention on the books and are less than a million from the cap ceiling.

Might get Martinez for that but I expect he gets close to a million more. Coleman should get 4-4.5 in a world that currently appreciates his style of game more than it used to.

From a trade standpoint as a Leafs fan I think value is there with the retention. Not sure it makes sense for Vegas though.


In the trade notes I mentioned that the trade would have to go through a third team like Seattle so they could retain the salary. The TML pick goes to Seattle for that, Mikheyev goes to Vegas, and TML gets Fleury and the 5th.
2 juill. 2021 à 16 h 59
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Quoting: VGKNation702
That fleury trade is bad for vegas. We can get more for him, but I ultimately think it’s Lehner that gets moved.

Love getting coleman. I think that’s close for Eichel; probably need to add NJD2nd and another prospect not named Krebs.


I don't think the Fleury trade is great for Vegas either but I REALLY wanted to try to get Eichel AND Coleman without losing Martinez. In reality it's pretty tough to imagine being able to have all three but this is probably the only way to make it work.

You're right about having to possibly add for Eichel and I would definitely be happy to add that 2nd. Also agree on Krebs. Don't want to lose him OR Tuch but I would deal with losing one or the other. Definitely not both.

I actually had another version of this that moved Fleury through Seattle to Pittsburgh that brought back a 2nd round pick instead of receiving Mikheyev and signed Haula for $2m to be on the third line with Coleman and Stephenson. Would be the best scoring threat VGK has ever had from a third line. The problem is that it would mean playing Krebs on a 4th line and I can't imagine PDB or the GMs being okay with that.
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2 juill. 2021 à 17 h 5
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As a VGK fan I would actually prefer to give up Smith and Krebs because of Tuch's age and contract. I'm actually not sure why Buffalo would want someone Smith's age (as good as he is) when they're a ways off from contending.

As for UFA prices, they're definitely on the lower scale of what both players can make but I think Martinez would probably prefer to stick around for slightly less if it's reasonable. Coleman can get more but I was thinking that the 5 year term might bring his AAV down a bit if there were a modified NTC included. Also, have to remember that there's no state tax in Nevada so that can potentially be an advantage, Coleman making $3,750,000 in Vegas would probably mean more take home money than getting over $4m somewhere with state taxes.


Smith is just a cap dump that BUF can swap for more assets. Rotating the 2 also aligns better with both teams goals .

Coleman is going to get 5m+ with that term,maybe 6. He is going to be one of the biggest FA's and plenty of places have no state income tax
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Quoting: Meeqs
Smith is just a cap dump that BUF can swap for more assets. Rotating the 2 also aligns better with both teams goals .

Coleman is going to get 5m+ with that term,maybe 6. He is going to be one of the biggest FA's and plenty of places have no state income tax


I have no idea what Coleman would get but I wouldn't be stunned if he got what you say here. He's absolutely worth the money and he may want to be a focal point of another team after already winning one (possibly two?) Cups(s) by that point. As for taxes, I think VGK, Nashville, Dallas, Tampa and Florida are the places that would be options without paying state taxes. Wouldn't be a surprise to see the Stars make a run at him to bring him home.
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i will take fleury
 
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