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Créé par: MaltePalte
Équipe: 2021-22 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 28 juin 2021
Publié: 28 juin 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Heineman, Emil [Liste de réserve]
  2. Lucic, Milan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (CGY)
CGY
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
2.
CHI
  1. Jones, Caleb
  2. Neal, James
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2022 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
3.
CHI
  1. Ladd, Andrew
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (NYI)
NYI
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (CHI)
4.
CHI
  1. Eriksson, Loui
  2. Lind, Kole [Droits de RFA]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (VAN)
VAN
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2023 (CHI)
5.
CHI
  1. Foote, Cal [Droits de RFA]
  2. Johnson, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 (TBL)
TBL
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2022 (CHI)
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2781 500 000 $91 226 843 $452 439 $5 115 000 $-9 726 843 $
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RFA - 1
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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750 000 $750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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RFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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800 000 $800 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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28 juin 2021 à 14 h 27
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Flames won't be using there 1st to dump Lucic IMO
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28 juin 2021 à 14 h 31
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Flames won't be using there 1st to dump Lucic IMO


What do you want to give up to dump Lucic? Heineman and 1st (2022) and hope it's not a top 15 pick, or a 2nd?
28 juin 2021 à 14 h 37
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What do you want to give up to dump Lucic? Heineman and 1st (2022) and hope it's not a top 15 pick, or a 2nd?


I think I will keep Lucic. Yes he is overpaid but if Flames lose Gio and trade Looch that will be 2 of the best leaders on the team. And if Tkachuk does really want out and GMBT is saying he doesn't has a negotiation technique that would be our 3 best leaders gone.
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28 juin 2021 à 14 h 37
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Johnson and Lucic are still useful players.
Neal maybe some nights.
Ladd isn't playing. And Eriksson might as well not be playing.

And all of those teams will say, "we are not paying to move that salary"
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28 juin 2021 à 14 h 41
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What do you want to give up to dump Lucic? Heineman and 1st (2022) and hope it's not a top 15 pick, or a 2nd?


We would probably try to not give up a 1st cuz our prospect pool isnt in the best shape and Lucic hasnt been that terrible for us. Maybe we would retain a couple mil so we can keep our 1st.
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28 juin 2021 à 15 h 29
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Johnson and Lucic are still useful players.
Neal maybe some nights.
Ladd isn't playing. And Eriksson might as well not be playing.

And all of those teams will say, "we are not paying to move that salary"


Tampa really wants to get rid of Johnson this summer and they know they need to pay BIG to the team who takes him. I mean there is a reason no one picked him up from waivers.
28 juin 2021 à 15 h 34
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Tampa really wants to get rid of Johnson this summer and they know they need to pay BIG to the team who takes him. I mean there is a reason no one picked him up from waivers.


I don’t disagree that Lightning will pay to move him.
I just think he would be more attractive for rebuilding club, than Ladd or Neal.

Also, it’s a lot harder to add cap mid-season. So don’t assume all those that pass waivers have negative value.
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28 juin 2021 à 15 h 35
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Tampa really wants to get rid of Johnson this summer and they know they need to pay BIG to the team who takes him. I mean there is a reason no one picked him up from waivers.


Biggest reason nobody has taken him is they know Tampa will have to either pay to offload him or if they can't find a taker for him, better players will become available.

For the Oilers one, I'd be hesitant to use a 1st to dump salary but something like this I would do.
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28 juin 2021 à 15 h 38
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I don’t disagree that Lightning will pay to move him.
I just think he would be more attractive for rebuilding club, than Ladd or Neal.

Also, it’s a lot harder to add cap mid-season. So don’t assume all those that pass waivers have negative value.


Oh, okey. My mistake.

No ofc everyone don't have negative value, but in this case, haha.
28 juin 2021 à 17 h 53
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What do you want to give up to dump Lucic? Heineman and 1st (2022) and hope it's not a top 15 pick, or a 2nd?


Maybe a 3rd? Absolute max Calgary would pay is a 2nd. Lucic despite being overpaid has been an excellent team leader and positive impact player for the Flames. Not really interested in moving him considering the price it would cost
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