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Canes 21-22 Forsberg

Créé par: vikhodush
Date de création initiale: jun 14, 2021
Publié: 14 jun à 13 h 18
Équipe: 2021-22 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Explications
Likely not realistic because I’m assuming forsberg wants to re-sign with Preds and they want to re-sign him as well. But this would be a great addition to Carolina and I think it would be the perfect fit. Not sure about the value in the trade but willing to tweak it.

If they did trade for him, assuming he’d get something like a 6x8M extension - going to do a part two for the 22-23 season to see how that plays out with rest of team.

Barrie would be a good replacement to play with Slavin, not sure if that deal is realistic so feel free to weigh in.

Oleksiak brings some size and stability to third pair. Could try Keane out there as Hjalmerson is coming back (honestly not sure about that one). Detroit gas cap space for Gardiner and he’d be serviceable over there if we send a pick with him.

Think Armia would be a great scoop and fit for this team - how’s the contract?
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Bean, Jake2900 000 $
Svechnikov, Andrei26 000 000 $
Nedeljkovic, Alex23 500 000 $
Lajoie, Maxime2800 000 $
Helvig, Jeremy2750 000 $
Korshkov, Yegor2750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
McCormick, Max2750 000 $
McGinn, Brock22 300 000 $
Oleksiak, Jamie23 500 000 $
Armia, Joel23 500 000 $
Barrie, Tyson25 500 000 $
Martinook, Jordan11 000 000 $
Mrázek, Petr23 500 000 $
Hjalmarsson, Niklas12 500 000 $
Transactions
CAR
  1. Forsberg, Filip
NSH
  1. Suzuki, Ryan
  2. Foegele, Warren [Droits de RFA]
  3. Geekie, Morgan [Droits de RFA]
  4. Fast, Jesper
  5. 2021 1e round pick (CAR)
  6. 2022 2e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. 2022 6e round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. 2023 2e round pick (CAR)
CAR
    SEA
    1. Skjei, Brady
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2021
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    LAK
    STL
    2022
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    ANA
    DET
    CAR
    CBJ
    2023
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    CAR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $81 282 749 $0 $620 000 $217 251 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    CAR
    Svechnikov, Andrei
    6 000 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA
    CAR
    Aho, Sebastian
    8 460 250 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Teräväinen, Teuvo
    5 400 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    NSH
    Forsberg, Filip
    6 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Trocheck, Vincent
    4 750 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Necas, Martin
    863 333 $
    AD, C
    RFA - 1
    CAR
    Niederreiter, Nino
    5 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    CAR
    Staal, Jordan
    6 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NMC
    UFA - 2
    Armia, Joel
    3 500 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    CAR
    Martinook, Jordan
    1 000 000 $
    C, AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Lorentz, Steven
    725 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    CAR
    McGinn, Brock
    2 300 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    CAR
    McCormick, Max
    750 000 $
    AG
    UFA
    CAR
    Korshkov, Yegor
    750 000 $
    AD
    RFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    CAR
    Slavin, Jaccob
    5 300 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    Barrie, Tyson
    5 500 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Nedeljkovic, Alex
    3 500 000 $
    G
    UFA - 2
    CAR
    Bean, Jake
    900 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 3
    CAR
    Pesce, Brett
    4 025 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 3
    CAR
    Mrázek, Petr
    3 500 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    Oleksiak, Jamie
    3 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    Hjalmarsson, Niklas
    2 500 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA
    CAR
    Keane, Joey
    809 166 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    Équipe de réserve
    CAR
    Helvig, Jeremy
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    G
    UFA
    CAR
    Lajoie, Maxime
    800 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    RFA

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Aho, S.
    Trocheck, V.
    Forsberg, F.
    Barrie, T.
    Necas, M.
    Avantage numérique 2
    Niederreiter, N.
    Staal, J.
    Teräväinen, T.
    Svechnikov, A.
    Bean, J.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Staal, J.
    McGinn, B.
    Slavin, J.
    Pesce, B.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Aho, S.
    Teräväinen, T.
    Oleksiak, J.
    Hjalmarsson, N.

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    14 jun à 13 h 23
    #1
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    That's WAY too much to give up for someone who's a rental, and he is a rental because Carolina won't have the space to re-sign him with both Trocheck and Nino needing new deals.
    14 jun à 13 h 24
    #2
    Your deal is bad
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    If we are giving up that much, an extension has to already be in place
    14 jun à 13 h 25
    #3
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    I'm not a fan of either team, but that is way too much for Filip Forsberg.
    14 jun à 13 h 39
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    We're not giving that much for Forsberg. Don't get me wrong here, he'd be a nice add for sure. But since Forsberg will probably want more on his next contract and we are in a bit of a cap crunch here, he would likely end up being just a rental, and I am NOT taking a rental for that price.
    14 jun à 13 h 41
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    That's WAY too much to give up for someone who's a rental, and he is a rental because Carolina won't have the space to re-sign him with both Trocheck and Nino needing new deals.


    I’m not seeing it as a rental. Posted a part 2 where I played the extension out following season. Let troch and Nino go essentially.
    14 jun à 13 h 41
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    Quoting: OnlyBadDeals
    If we are giving up that much, an extension has to already be in place


    Yep it is - I should’ve made that clearer in description. Check out part 2 where I played out extension in following season.
    14 jun à 13 h 42
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    Quoting: Dzinger18
    We're not giving that much for Forsberg. Don't get me wrong here, he'd be a nice add for sure. But since Forsberg will probably want more on his next contract and we are in a bit of a cap crunch here, he would likely end up being just a rental, and I am NOT taking a rental for that price.


    Definitely should’ve been more clear in description - this is an extension play. Check out my part 2.
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    14 jun à 14 h 48
    #8
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    I’m not seeing it as a rental. Posted a part 2 where I played the extension out following season. Let troch and Nino go essentially.


    Letting Trocheck go is comical. He's been the 2nd best player on the roster during his short stint here. Any recommendation that they let him go is straight-up laughable.
    14 jun à 14 h 52
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Letting Trocheck go is comical. He's been the 2nd best player on the roster during his short stint here. Any recommendation that they let him go is straight-up laughable.


    He’s been great but I’d assume he wants a big pay day. Would rather not overpay when Necas can and will develop into the 2C of the future. Can improve at another area and still be solid up the middle.
    14 jun à 14 h 54
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Assuming he wants one more big deal as he comes out of his prime I’d rather not overpay. Necas can develop into a 2C or you can find a short term replacement while he does at a reasonable cap hit. That being said if he’s willing to stay on a more team friendly deal then sure go ahead and give him a new deal. Overpaying players on new deals for prior performance is how teams get in trouble.


    Necas won't move over, his dominance on the wing has become more too valuable. He's better suited to being the right-shot winger of the top 6. Paying for Trocheck is the priority, moving for a rental like Forsberg right makes no sense.
    14 jun à 14 h 55
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Necas won't move over, his dominance on the wing has become more too valuable. He's better suited to being the right-shot winger of the top 6. Paying for Trocheck is the priority, moving for a rental like Forsberg right makes no sense.


    Like I put in the description and in multiple responses. It’s not a rental.
    14 jun à 14 h 57
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Like I put in the description and in multiple responses. It’s not a rental.


    It's a rental, because you do not prioritise signing a winger over a center. Trocheck would be re-signed before Forsberg. If you can only pick 1, you take Trocheck over Forsberg which makes him... A RENTAL!
    14 jun à 14 h 59
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    It's a rental, because you do not prioritise signing a winger over a center. Trocheck would be re-signed before Forsberg. If you can only pick 1, you take Trocheck over Forsberg which makes him... A RENTAL!


    It’s not a rental if it’s a sign and trade, chief. Which as I stated, it is. Have your opinion over who is more valuable or should be prioritized but twisting things around doesn’t change facts.
    14 jun à 16 h 30
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    It’s not a rental if it’s a sign and trade, chief. Which as I stated, it is. Have your opinion over who is more valuable or should be prioritized but twisting things around doesn’t change facts.


    Simply do a better job of setting up your team! Perhaps don't let the teams 2nd highest scorer walk away!
    14 jun à 17 h 13
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Simply do a better job of setting up your team! Perhaps don't let the teams 2nd highest scorer walk away!


    Nah I’m good. This is a very good team. Thanks for your input.
    14 jun à 17 h 20
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    Quoting: vikhodush
    Nah I’m good. This is a very good team. Thanks for your input.


    Yes a team with no 2C is a good team sure!
    14 jun à 17 h 21
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Yes a team with no 2C is a good team sure!


    Yep this team is very good thanks for coming over to my side!
    14 jun à 17 h 39
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Simply do a better job of setting up your team! Perhaps don't let the teams 2nd highest scorer walk away!


    Yo this is his version of the team. Not yours. Lol
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    14 jun à 17 h 41
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    Quoting: F50marco
    Yo this is his version of the team. Not yours. Lol


    Haha thx bro - it’s all good he’s entitled to his opinion. Just don’t get why he’s so obsessed about a hypothetical in a forum like this where ppl just get creative. I’ve seen a lot of the same old versions and figured this one would be a fun different option
     
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