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Créé par: si5137
Date de création initiale: avr 30, 2021
Publié: 12 jun à 13 h 03
Équipe: 2021-22 Islanders de New York
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Hickey could be bought out and that would save another .500k to either beef up Palmieri, Sorokin or Beau's deal. Beau's deal is a bridge - I have it listed as 3 years, but it could be 2. This scenario hinges on Ladd going to LTIR. Another way to get more cap space would be trading the 2nd round pick to move Hickey's full contract off the books - that would cost a 2nd rounder. Sorokin's contract is similar to Mackenzie Blackwood's. Greene making 2.75 has to do with the bonuses he earned for this '21 season. I also gave Casey 3 m AAV - maybe he accepts a deal for 2.5 and that gives the team another.500k to play with to beef up Beau, Sorokin, or Palmieri. The team could also let Casey walk and sign Zajac to a contract that would save another 2m.
*Made an edit bought out Hickey and gave it all to Palmieri to be in line with Toffoli deal.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Dal Colle, Michael11 000 000 $
Pelech, Adam65 000 000 $
Sorokin, Ilya23 000 000 $
Bellows, Kieffer2750 000 $
Koivula, Otto2750 000 $
Golyshev, Anatoly2750 000 $
Timashov, Dmytro2750 000 $
Carpenter, Bobo1750 000 $
Beauvillier, Anthony34 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Greene, Andy12 750 000 $
Chara, Zdeno1750 000 $
Cizikas, Casey33 000 000 $
Coburn, Braydon1750 000 $
Bardreau, Cole1750 000 $
Schneider, Cory1750 000 $
De Leo, Chase1750 000 $
Palmieri, Kyle44 000 000 $
Transactions
NYI
    expansion pick
    SEA
    1. Leddy, Nick
    Rachats de contrats
    • Rick DiPietro: 0 $
    • Thomas Hickey: 833 334 $
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
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    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    2022
    NYI
    NYI
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    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    2023
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    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
    NYI
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    AG, C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
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    Barzal, Mathew
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    NYI
    Eberle, Jordan
    5 500 000 $
    AD
    NTC
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    NYI
    Beauvillier, Anthony
    4 000 000 $
    AG
    RFA
    NYI
    Nelson, Brock
    6 000 000 $
    C, AG
    NTC
    UFA - 4
    NYI
    Bailey, Josh
    5 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    NYI
    Palmieri, Kyle
    4 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA
    NYI
    Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
    5 000 000 $
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 5
    NYI
    Wahlstrom, Oliver
    894 167 $
    C, AD
    RFA - 2
    NYI
    Martin, Matt
    1 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    NYI
    Cizikas, Casey
    3 000 000 $
    C
    UFA
    NYI
    Clutterbuck, Cal
    3 500 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Johnston, Ross
    1 000 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Bellows, Kieffer
    750 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    NYI
    Pelech, Adam
    5 000 000 $
    DG
    RFA
    NYI
    Pulock, Ryan
    5 000 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Varlamov, Semyon
    5 000 000 $
    G
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    NYI
    Greene, Andy
    2 750 000 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Mayfield, Scott
    1 450 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 2
    NYI
    Sorokin, Ilya
    3 000 000 $
    G
    RFA
    Chara, Zdeno
    750 000 $
    DG
    UFA
    NYI
    Dobson, Noah
    894 167 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    NYI
    Aho, Sebastian
    725 000 $
    DG
    RFA - 1
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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    Boychuk, Johnny
    6 000 000 $
    DD
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Ladd, Andrew
    5 500 000 $
    AG
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    Équipe de réserve
    NYI
    Komarov, Leo
    3 000 000 $ (1 875 000 $)
    AD, AG, C
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    NYI
    Schneider, Cory
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    G
    UFA
    NYI
    Coburn, Braydon
    750 000 $ (0 $)
    DG
    UFA
    NYI
    Dal Colle, Michael
    1 000 000 $ (0 $)
    AG
    RFA

    Unités spéciales

    Avantage numérique 1
    Wahlstrom, O.
    Barzal, M.
    Lee, A.
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    Dobson, N.
    Avantage numérique 2
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    Nelson, B.
    Bailey, J.
    Eberle, J.
    Pulock, R.
    Infériorité numérique 1
    Pageau, J.
    , .
    Pelech, A.
    Pulock, R.
    Infériorité numérique 2
    Cizikas, C.
    Clutterbuck, C.
    Chara, Z.
    Mayfield, S.

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    12 jun à 13 h 15
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    I heard rumors that Palmeiri was looking for a deal closer to 6 million AAV, but so was Hoffman and he never got it. Like Hoffman I can see Palmeiri taking a one year deal to stay with the Islanders at about the same price as Hoffman got but I honestly can't see him taking a 4 year deal.
    12 jun à 13 h 27
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    He ain't getting 6.

    I am using Toffoli and Craig Smith deals as a reference.
    12 jun à 13 h 32
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    Quoting: Rokk
    I heard rumors that Palmeiri was looking for a deal closer to 6 million AAV, but so was Hoffman and he never got it. Like Hoffman I can see Palmeiri taking a one year deal to stay with the Islanders at about the same price as Hoffman got but I honestly can't see him taking a 4 year deal.


    where did you see that palmieri was looking for close to 6 mill? I can't see palmieri taking a 1 year deal, the isles aren't a team to boost your numbers for a bigger pay day. He'll get something like 5 mill x 6-7 years
    12 jun à 13 h 34
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    He's not getting 6 or 7 years at 31?

    Toffoli at 28 got 4 years. Hall will be lucky if he gets 4 years and RNH will be lucky he got 5 or 6 years
    12 jun à 13 h 54
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    Quoting: Isles777
    where did you see that palmieri was looking for close to 6 mill? I can't see palmieri taking a 1 year deal, the isles aren't a team to boost your numbers for a bigger pay day. He'll get something like 5 mill x 6-7 years


    I'm not sure internet rumors, which I honestly don't put much stock in. 6 to 7 years sounds a bit too much I can see a year until this flat cap sh*t is over with if he feels the Islanders have a shot at the cup and don't win it this year. I was talking about boosting his numbers it's not totally unbelievable for a guy to take a one year discount price if the situations right.
    12 jun à 13 h 55
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    Quoting: Rokk
    I'm not sure internet rumors, which I honestly don't put much stock in. 6 to 7 years sounds a bit too much I can see a year until this flat cap sh*t is over with if he feels the Islanders have a shot at the cup and don't win it this year. I wasn't talking about boosting his numbers it's not totally unbelievable for a guy to take a one year discount price if the situations right.
    12 jun à 13 h 57
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    Quoting: Rokk
    I'm not sure internet rumors, which I honestly don't put much stock in. 6 to 7 years sounds a bit too much I can see a year until this flat cap sh*t is over with if he feels the Islanders have a shot at the cup and don't win it this year. I was talking about boosting his numbers it's not totally unbelievable for a guy to take a one year discount price if the situations right.


    I think there will be a few GMs that will overpay palmieri based on his playoff performance. If he takes a 1 year deal with the isles, he’s not getting a long term deal the following summer entering his age 32 season. Brendan Gallagher is palmieri s closest comparable, he signed 6.5 x 6 after it was known there would be a flat cap
    12 jun à 14 h 03
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    Quoting: Isles777
    I think there will be a few GMs that will overpay palmieri based on his playoff performance. If he takes a 1 year deal with the isles, he’s not getting a long term deal the following summer entering his age 32 season. Brendan Gallagher is palmieri s closest comparable, he signed 6.5 x 6 after it was known there would be a flat cap


    That may be true but Hoffman was looking for a long term 6 million dollar pay day last year and never got it. He ended up signing a one year 4 million dollar deal with St. Louis and it had nothing to do with padding his numbers. He wanted a chance to win and thought St. Louis was it. I don't think anyone expected the Blues to have as bad of a season as they did.
    12 jun à 14 h 10
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    Quoting: Rokk
    That may be true but Hoffman was looking for a long term 6 million dollar pay day last year and never got it. He ended up signing a one year 4 million dollar deal with St. Louis and it had nothing to do with padding his numbers. He wanted a chance to win and thought St. Louis was it. I don't think anyone expected the Blues to have as bad of a season as they did.


    Hoffman has a bad reputation around the league and he is known for not paying attention to coaches/buying into a system. There’s a reason why Florida didn’t bring him back and he was scratched multiple times in St. Louis . He’s one of the worst even strength players in the league, he’s a powerplay specialist. Much different player than palmieri - Palmieri is very similar to guys like gallagher, James Neal, lucic, Andrew Ladd. Character guys who can score goals + play in all situations but but fall off a cliff by the time they’re 31. Palmieri turns 31 in February. That doesn’t stop GMs from making impulse decisions to save their jobs.
    12 jun à 14 h 29
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    Quoting: Isles777
    Hoffman has a bad reputation around the league and he is known for not paying attention to coaches/buying into a system. There’s a reason why Florida didn’t bring him back and he was scratched multiple times in St. Louis . He’s one of the worst even strength players in the league, he’s a powerplay specialist. Much different player than palmieri - Palmieri is very similar to guys like gallagher, James Neal, lucic, Andrew Ladd. Character guys who can score goals + play in all situations but but fall off a cliff by the time they’re 31. Palmieri turns 31 in February. That doesn’t stop GMs from making impulse decisions to save their jobs.


    Why did you focus on character guys that failed? To prove a point? You do know there's character guys out there right now still owning the league right? I'll just drop one name Brad Marchand 33 years old and locked up for the next 4 years. I get you prefer skill players because the numbers line up, but if the playoffs haven't proven to you that skilled players aren't the driving force to the cup there's nothing I can say that'll change your mind. Tampa is the only team left that's a 100% all in on analytics and they had to go 18 million over the cap to achieve it. It's easy to say how great they are, but would they be as great as they are with 18 million dollars less to spend on players, no they wouldn't. They'd have to cut talent somewhere.
    12 jun à 14 h 34
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    Modifié 12 jun à 14 h 45
    Quoting: Rokk
    Why did you focus on character guys that failed? To prove a point? You do know there's character guys out there right now still owning the league right? I'll just drop one name Brad Marchand 33 years old and locked up for the next 4 years. I get you prefer skill players because the numbers line up, but if the playoffs haven't proven to you that skilled players aren't the driving force to the cup there's nothing I can say that'll change your mind. Tampa is the only team left that's a 100% all in on analytics and they had to go 18 million over the cap to achieve it. It's easy to say how great they are, but would they be as great as they are with 18 million dollars less to spend on players, no they wouldn't. They'd have to cut talent somewhere.


    Brad Marchand is a top 3 winger in the league lmao good try though. I love how you brought in analytics into this - People like yourself think that analytics is about skill over grit, it's substance over style. I'll take a good player who is gritty over skilled player who gets out shot and outscored. You clearly don't know what aging curves are and over 90% of players that profile like the Palmieri's , ladds and Neals of the hockey world usually fall off of a cliff in their early 30s.

    BTW Vegas is 100% in on analytics but you're not ready for that conversation yet.
    12 jun à 14 h 37
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    Quoting: Rokk
    Why did you focus on character guys that failed? To prove a point? You do know there's character guys out there right now still owning the league right? I'll just drop one name Brad Marchand 33 years old and locked up for the next 4 years. I get you prefer skill players because the numbers line up, but if the playoffs haven't proven to you that skilled players aren't the driving force to the cup there's nothing I can say that'll change your mind. Tampa is the only team left that's a 100% all in on analytics and they had to go 18 million over the cap to achieve it. It's easy to say how great they are, but would they be as great as they are with 18 million dollars less to spend on players, no they wouldn't. They'd have to cut talent somewhere.


    tampa won the cup last season because Hedman, Kucherov, and Point played like superstar - not because they had zach Bogosian in their Dcore. St. Louis won the cup in 2019 because Ryan orielly , tarasenko, Pietrangelo and binnington carried the team. Everything with you is confirmation bias even if the facts are presented to you.
    12 jun à 14 h 44
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    Quoting: Isles777
    Brad Marchand is a top 3 winger in the league lmao good try though. I love how you brought in analytics into this - People like yourself think that analytics is about skill over grit, it's substance over style. I'll take a good player who is gritty over skilled player who gets out shot and outscored. You clearly don't know what aging curves are and over 90% of players that profile like the Palmieri's , ladds and Neals of the hockey world usually fall off of a cliff in their early 30s.

    BTW Vegas is 100% in non analytics but you're not ready for that conversation yet.


    Brad Marchand is a character guy are you seriously trying to tell me one of the dirtiest players in the league isn't? Just because he plays 1st line hockey doesn't mean he isn't a character guy. I think you're in denial because he proves your point false, but hey you keep going on about players who's careers failed like skill players don't go through the same thing.
    12 jun à 14 h 53
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    Brad Marchand is a character guy are you seriously trying to tell me one of the dirtiest players in the league isn't? Just because he plays 1st line hockey doesn't mean he isn't a character guy. I think you're in denial because he proves your point false, but hey you keep going on about players who's careers failed like skill players don't go through the same thing.


    Brad Marchand is a superstar, he's part of the 1% that are able to be successful up until their mid 30s - you took my comment as a shot at players with character - so let me simplify this for you. Goal scorers who profile like palmieri almost always fall off a cliff in their early 30's. Palmieri is a skill player by the way, just like lucic , Neal and ladd once were. Now their GMs can't wait to get rid of them. You clearly don't understand aging curves, I can go through cap friendly and get a list of 30+ players that profile like palmieri over the last 5-7 years that have fallen off a cliff by the time theyre 31-32 years old. It's the type of game they play. Lee's time is coming as well unfortunately.
    12 jun à 14 h 58
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    Brad Marchand is a character guy are you seriously trying to tell me one of the dirtiest players in the league isn't? Just because he plays 1st line hockey doesn't mean he isn't a character guy. I think you're in denial because he proves your point false, but hey you keep going on about players who's careers failed like skill players don't go through the same thing.


    Palmieri has scored at a 30 goal pace 4 times in his career - not a skill player? lol the guy was elite in transition as a sniper for many years - one of the reasons he's started to decline this season is because his skating got worse and he's slower to get to the soft spots In the ozone. Fortunately for him, he's shooting 30% in the playoffs (which is obviously not sustainable) and he's going to get rewarded for it in free agency.
    12 jun à 15 h 09
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    Quoting: Isles777
    Palmieri has scored at a 30 goal pace 4 times in his career - not a skill player? lol the guy was elite in transition as a sniper for many years - one of the reasons he's started to decline this season is because his skating got worse and he's slower to get to the soft spots In the ozone. Fortunately for him, he's shooting 30% in the playoffs (which is obviously not sustainable) and he's going to get rewarded for it in free agency.


    I just did a google search for aging curves in the nhl and my god man they have analytic BS about everything these days don't they? Have a good day bud.
    12 jun à 15 h 15
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    Quoting: Rokk
    I just did a google search for aging curves in the nhl and my god man they have analytic BS about everything these days don't they? Have a good day bud.


    classic, you just got triggered because its true. Hey buddy you think the isles should trade for James Neal? 33 years old , 9 straight years of scoring 20 goals. Only 2 years left at 5.75 mill per - or how about lucic?

    Can you give me a list of 5 players over the last 5 years of non superstars that profile like those guys that have been productive into their mid 30's? You can't. There'smaybe 1 or 2 of them.
    12 jun à 15 h 32
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    Quoting: Isles777
    classic, you just got triggered because its true. Hey buddy you think the isles should trade for James Neal? 33 years old , 9 straight years of scoring 20 goals. Only 2 years left at 5.75 mill per - or how about lucic?

    Can you give me a list of 5 players over the last 5 years of non superstars that profile like those guys that have been productive into their mid 30's? You can't. There'smaybe 1 or 2 of them.


    There's only one or two of them because according to you if they're still able to do it they're superstars and no longer character guys. The task is pretty much set up to fail. So no I guess I can't.
    12 jun à 15 h 53
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    Quoting: Rokk
    There's only one or two of them because according to you if they're still able to do it they're superstars and no longer character guys. The task is pretty much set up to fail. So no I guess I can't.


    you're grasping at straws lol - Elite players face slower age related decline , I thought that was common sense. This is more about style of play than character, but go off I guess. Most players that have a skillset similar to palmieri fall off a cliff by the time theyre 31, 32 years old. You don't even need analytics, all it takes is a simple hockeydb search.
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    Modifié 12 jun à 16 h 11
    Quoting: Isles777
    I think there will be a few GMs that will overpay palmieri based on his playoff performance. If he takes a 1 year deal with the isles, he’s not getting a long term deal the following summer entering his age 32 season. Brendan Gallagher is palmieri s closest comparable, he signed 6.5 x 6 after it was known there would be a flat cap


    IMO, Gallagher is not a good comparable. Gallagher just had back - to - back 30+ goal seasons and is a top-line player who plays in all situations.

    Toffoli is a better comparison, who signed a 4- 4.25 AAV. Palmieri is also a year older than Toffoli was.
    12 jun à 16 h 15
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    IMO, Gallagher is not a good comparable. Gallagher just had back - to - back 30+ goal seasons and is a top-line player who plays in all situations.

    Toffoli is a better comparison, who signed a 4- 4.25 AAV. Palmieri is also a year older than Toffoli was.


    palmieri was more consistent than Toffoli , GM's are going to bet on him returning to form (it's not going to happen). Anything more than 1 year for palmieri will be a huge mistake, and the islanders are better of not re-signing him + giving more term to pelech, beau, sorokin.
    12 jun à 16 h 18
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    Quoting: Isles777
    you're grasping at straws lol - Elite players face slower age related decline , I thought that was common sense. This is more about style of play than character, but go off I guess. Most players that have a skillset similar to palmieri fall off a cliff by the time theyre 31, 32 years old. You don't even need analytics, all it takes is a simple hockeydb search.


    Dude, you're flip flopping all over the place and I'm not sure you know what a character guy actually is, you go from grit to goal scorer to god knows what's next. It sounds to me like you're saying all players decline with age and are just looking for an argument since no one can argue with that. It happens they "all" do. But, I have better things to do than bang my head against a wall today so have a good one man.
    12 jun à 16 h 27
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    Quoting: Isles777
    palmieri was more consistent than Toffoli , GM's are going to bet on him returning to form (it's not going to happen). Anything more than 1 year for palmieri will be a huge mistake, and the islanders are better of not re-signing him + giving more term to pelech, beau, sorokin.


    Toffoli is a way closer comparable than Gallagher.

    You make a good argument about committing long term cap space - even at 4 years for Palmieri - I don't think Beau signs long term - it benefits him to take a bridge. The same goes for Sorokin - Blackwood bridge deal is a good comparison as to a Demko-type contract.

    Pelech will get his long term deal
    12 jun à 16 h 33
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    Quoting: Rokk
    Dude, you're flip flopping all over the place and I'm not sure you know what a character guy actually is, you go from grit to goal scorer to god knows what's next. It sounds to me like you're saying all players decline with age and are just looking for an argument since no one can argue with that. It happens they "all" do. But, I have better things to do than bang my head against a wall today so have a good one man.


    It seems like you’re the one doing mental gymnastics but whatever you say bud 👍
    12 jun à 16 h 40
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    Quoting: si5137
    Toffoli is a way closer comparable than Gallagher.

    You make a good argument about committing long term cap space - even at 4 years for Palmieri - I don't think Beau signs long term - it benefits him to take a bridge. The same goes for Sorokin - Blackwood bridge deal is a good comparison as to a Demko-type contract.

    Pelech will get his long term deal


    The isles shouldn't even think about signing palmieri. The most they should give him is 3 mill x 1 and he won't take that.

    Beauvillier just turned 24, it actually makes more sense for him to sign a 5-6 year deal than a 2 year deal, he'll make more money over his career on a backloaded 5-6 year deal that takes him to his age 28 or 29 season and its not a bridge deal if it walks him to UFA . Same with Sorokin. Walking players to UFA rids you of leverage.

    If the isles keep walking their young players to UFA while overpaying for near 30 players, they will end up having to go through a 7-10 year period of pain like the devils. The priority this offseason should be to get younger and extend players through their prime years.
     
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