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Équipe: 2021-22 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 3 mai 2021
Publié: 3 mai 2021
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Assumes Copp will accept an Ehlers-like deal, and that Pionk would stay a little bit under Morrissey. (Is this reasonable to expect, though? Copp could see offer sheets up to 6.5 if they don't sign him up before free agency?)

I think its likely that Brossoit is lured away with some extra money and term than the Jets might not want to spend in that position, hence the trade for Kinkaid- he is cheap, and on a relatively strong defensive team he should be serviceable as a backup.

Helm and Sutter both likely willing to take short term on a contender at their age. Weal is fairly versatile, making him useful as a plug in my books.

These short deals should allow space to negotiate with PLD, Niku, and Vesalainen the following off-season.
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    3 mai 2021 à 11 h 1
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    I’m not sure where you’re getting the 6 million number for Copp. That’s absurd. He’s looking at 4-4.5 million.

    Pionk likely takes like an 7 or 8 year deal at 5.5 million. They’d just bring up berdin if brossoit leaves in FA. Little likely is on LTIR. Perreault will get under 2 million. I don’t mind bringing helm and sutter in for cheap though.
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    3 mai 2021 à 11 h 30
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    Quoting: tsyls
    I’m not sure where you’re getting the 6 million number for Copp. That’s absurd. He’s looking at 4-4.5 million.

    Pionk likely takes like an 7 or 8 year deal at 5.5 million. They’d just bring up berdin if brossoit leaves in FA. Little likely is on LTIR. Perreault will get under 2 million. I don’t mind bringing helm and sutter in for cheap though.


    Pretty big year for Copp, not too far short of Ehlers, granted coming a bit later in his career as well. 4.5M seems like the low end for sure, other teams will definitely be sniffing around. I have no doubt the player wants to stay, but agents be agents.
    3 mai 2021 à 11 h 36
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    Pretty big year for Copp, not too far short of Ehlers, granted coming a bit later in his career as well. 4.5M seems like the low end for sure, other teams will definitely be sniffing around. I have no doubt the player wants to stay, but agents be agents.


    His agent is a stickler. They filed for arbitration last year, might do it again. Copp has had 1 good season, besides this year he’s never even broken 30 pts. So no, he’s not even getting close to what Ehlers is making. Teams can OS him for 4.4-6.5 for all I care, I’ll take their 1st and 3rd for Copp. Only way Jets manage to keep him is if he wants to stay, (arb last year makes him seem like a bit of a pain to negotiate with) and he’ll take a reasonable amount around 4.25m.

    If he had like 5 45+ Pt seasons then I’d consider maybe 5m because of the defensive game he brings, but you don’t pay a guy who’s never scored 20 goals, or had 50 pts once over 4.5 million.
    3 mai 2021 à 11 h 41
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    Evolving Hockey's updated contract projections:
    Copp at 4 x $5.093 million (29% chance)
    Pionk at 4 x $5.976 million (34% chance) or 7 x $6.418 million (26% chance)
    3 mai 2021 à 11 h 53
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    If you want to replace Brossoit with a different backup, pick a better one than Kinkaid who has had sub-.900 save percentages over the past three seasons.
    3 mai 2021 à 11 h 59
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    Quoting: tsyls
    His agent is a stickler. They filed for arbitration last year, might do it again. Copp has had 1 good season, besides this year he’s never even broken 30 pts. So no, he’s not even getting close to what Ehlers is making. Teams can OS him for 4.4-6.5 for all I care, I’ll take their 1st and 3rd for Copp. Only way Jets manage to keep him is if he wants to stay, (arb last year makes him seem like a bit of a pain to negotiate with) and he’ll take a reasonable amount around 4.25m.

    If he had like 5 45+ Pt seasons then I’d consider maybe 5m because of the defensive game he brings, but you don’t pay a guy who’s never scored 20 goals, or had 50 pts once over 4.5 million.


    The year Ehlers signed @6M he had two season at 0.75 points/game ... I would say at his current production, Ehlers is a bit underpaid by league standards.

    Copp has 0.75 per game this year, and half a point per game the previous season. You combine the potential interest of other teams, and a bit of cap inflation since Ehlers signed... I think you are looking at 5-5.5m all day. 6M gets it done before free agency.
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    3 mai 2021 à 12 h 1
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    If you want to replace Brossoit with a different backup, pick a better one than Kinkaid who has had sub-.900 save percentages over the past three seasons.


    It would be great to keep Brossoit, but I can see him being offered over 2M with medium term, and I am not sure Jets would pay up to keep him. Kinkaid is more of a third goalie I guess, they probably have some prospect who could come up, but you don't want a valuable prospect playing backup to Hellebuyck all season either.

    Kinkaid been play on pretty porous teams past several seasons too.
    3 mai 2021 à 12 h 10
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    The year Ehlers signed 6M he had two season at 0.75 points/game ... I would say at his current production, Ehlers is a bit underpaid by league standards.

    Copp has 0.75 per game this year, and half a point per game the previous season. You combine the potential interest of other teams, and a bit of cap inflation since Ehlers signed... I think you are looking at 5-5.5m all day. 6M gets it done before free agency.


    They’ll qualify Copp and let him get OS’d before they pay over 5 million.

    I get what you’re saying. He’s always been under .5 PPG in his career, 1 good year doesn’t get you paid that much.

    We can agree to disagree though, because I think it’s pretty obvious, and feel like most other fans would agree that there’s 0 chance Jets will be giving Copp over 4.5 million. They’ll qualify and trade him before they give him 5 and above.
    3 mai 2021 à 12 h 12
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    It would be great to keep Brossoit, but I can see him being offered over 2M with medium term, and I am not sure Jets would pay up to keep him. Kinkaid is more of a third goalie I guess, they probably have some prospect who could come up, but you don't want a valuable prospect playing backup to Hellebuyck all season either.

    Kinkaid been play on pretty porous teams past several seasons too.


    I doubt Brossoit could get a significant raise beyond what he is making now with a minimal increase in term. Kinkaid is 31 years old and has regressed over the past 3 seasons and is unlikely to improve as he has hit his ceiling. Last time I checked the Jets were miserable defensively so Kinkaid is not likely to succeed. An organization's third goalie (in normal times) is the starter in the AHL and I wouldn't want to hinder the development of Berdin for a scrub in Kinkaid.
    3 mai 2021 à 12 h 50
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    The year Ehlers signed @6M he had two season at 0.75 points/game ... I would say at his current production, Ehlers is a bit underpaid by league standards.

    Copp has 0.75 per game this year, and half a point per game the previous season. You combine the potential interest of other teams, and a bit of cap inflation since Ehlers signed... I think you are looking at 5-5.5m all day. 6M gets it done before free agency.


    Copp never had a half point per game season before this one which has him at a 60 point pace over an 82 game schedule, would be crazy to pay him $6M based on this wierd season, he could just as easily be back to being a 25-30 point guy next season, I'd be weary about giving him $4M to be honest.
     
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