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first round exit

Créé par: Isles777
Équipe: 2020-21 Islanders de New York
Date de création initiale: 24 avr. 2021
Publié: 24 avr. 2021
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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it seems like lou/trotz are more concerned about "their way" than winning. With the lines the way they are this team is the worst in the division right now. We went from cup contender to lottery team - give trotz the jack Adams though...

I cannot believe the isles gave up a 1st rd pick to replace barzal at 1C and put a winger who can't create for himself on a line with players who can't get him the puck. You can't make this sh*t up.

This is what the lines should be moving forward.
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2681 500 000 $78 113 334 $0 $3 075 000 $3 386 666 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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2 325 000 $2 325 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD
NTC
UFA - 4
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2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 6
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 4
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700 000 $700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NTC
UFA - 5
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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NTC
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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1 450 000 $1 450 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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700 000 $700 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 000 000 $$2M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
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700 000 $700 000 $
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UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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2 875 000 $2 875 000 $
C
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UFA - 1
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 6
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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UFA - 2
Équipe de réserve
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ (4 425 000 $$4M4 425 000 $$4M)
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UFA - 3
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ (1 425 000 $$1M1 425 000 $$1M)
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UFA - 2
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894 166 $894 166 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
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UFA - 1
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725 000 $725 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
C, AD
UFA - 2

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24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 19
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Trotz made Zajac 1C?
24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 21
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Zajac = 552 points
Barzal = 245 points

Zajac > Barzal
24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 22
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Im starting to wonder if Lou traded the first for Zajac, not Palmieri lol
24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 26
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Quoting: CoopsTroops
Trotz made Zajac 1C?


yeah...I can't believe it doesn't get more media attention. Trotz pretty much neutered barzal because he has to accommodate a washed up 36 year old center.
24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 27
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Quoting: Devil1122
Im starting to wonder if Lou traded the first for Zajac, not Palmieri lol


you're probably right
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24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 34
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Zajac = 552 points
Barzal = 245 points

Zajac > Barzal


the numbers show that zajac was one of the worst defensive forwards on NJ this season. Does that check out by your eye test?
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24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 35
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yeah...I can't believe it doesn't get more media attention. Trotz pretty much neutered barzal because he has to accommodate a washed up 36 year old center.


My condolences.
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24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 46
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the numbers show that zajac was one of the worst defensive forwards on NJ this season. Does that check out by your eye test?


Really? I thought he was one of the best, if not, the best
24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 49
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Probably will be pens Vs isles first round. Will be a good series
24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 53
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Probably will be pens Vs isles first round. Will be a good series


I think it will be very one-sided if zajac stays on the 1st line and trotz continues to scratch wahlstrom. Right now I would say pens in 5
24 avr. 2021 à 23 h 55
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Quoting: Devil1122
Zajac = 552 points
Barzal = 245 points

Zajac > Barzal


nope hes the 2nd worst behind zacha. Jack Hughes is your best defensive forward.
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25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 4
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I would switch mayfield and dobson. The leddy-mayfield 5v5 experiment has lasted too long, but otherwise i agree.
25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 4
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nope hes the 2nd worst behind zacha. Jack Hughes is your best defensive forward.


Wow. I know Hughes is underrated defensively but I didn't think he was first.

Also where did you find this information and is this based on the entire season?
25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 6
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Wow. I know Hughes is underrated defensively but I didn't think he was first.

Also where did you find this information and is this based on the entire season?


Yeah and Zacha is the worst defensive forward.

Evolving hockey website under skater tables and yes
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25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 8
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
I would switch mayfield and dobson. The leddy-mayfield 5v5 experiment has lasted too long, but otherwise i agree.


Trying to be somewhat realistic lol - but man this game was hard to watch. 4th line is washed up , the 1st line was trash...I mean how much longer can this go on.
25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 10
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Trying to be somewhat realistic lol - but man this game was hard to watch. 4th line is washed up , the 1st line was trash...I mean how much longer can this go on.


It will go on till the earlier of 2 things happen
1. Lou and/or trotz go
2. Barzy/pulock goes
25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 13
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Yeah and Zacha is the worst defensive forward.

Evolving hockey website under skater tables and yes


Damn. I thought Zajac was great defensively. That's the best aspect of his game.
25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 14
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Yeah and Zacha is the worst defensive forward.

Evolving hockey website under skater tables and yes


And thanks for the info
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25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 18
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It will go on till the earlier of 2 things happen
1. Lou and/or trotz go
2. Barzy/pulock goes


This is some next level BS - It actually looks like trotz is trying to run barzal out of here. Trotz really let a 36 year 4th liner take his job 😂 - unreal. I personally think it’s worse than the wahlstrom situation. Wahlstrom deserves to be in the lineup, but the barzal to lw crap - yikes
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25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 20
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Quoting: Devil1122
Damn. I thought Zajac was great defensively. That's the best aspect of his game.


Not anymore lol. Since he joined barzal’s line that line has been much worse defensively overall
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25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 24
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This is some next level BS - It actually looks like trotz is trying to run barzal out of here. Trotz really let a 36 year 4th liner take his job 😂 - unreal. I personally think it’s worse than the wahlstrom situation. Wahlstrom deserves to be in the lineup, but the barzal to lw crap - yikes


I never in a million years thought id advocate for leo to play, but if its barzy-zajac-eberle or leo-barzy-eberle, i want the 2nd one.
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25 avr. 2021 à 0 h 30
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Quoting: Islesforthecup
I never in a million years thought id advocate for leo to play, but if its barzy-zajac-eberle or leo-barzy-eberle, i want the 2nd one.


Lmao I feel the same exact way, I just told one of my buddies that. Like when zajac was scratched for komarov last game , I was like eh at least barzal gets to stay at center.
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25 avr. 2021 à 1 h 7
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Trotz doesn't want to play hockey.
He wants a street fight. He wants to go out there and out goon the other team.
It's not hard to figure out why. You don't have the talent in the top 9 to actually win a skills game.

Even if you run those lines, outside the 1st line, there isn't really much there.
25 avr. 2021 à 1 h 10
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Quoting: pharrow
Trotz doesn't want to play hockey.
He wants a street fight. He wants to go out there and out goon the other team.
It's not hard to figure out why. You don't have the talent in the top 9 to actually win a skills game.

Even if you run those lines, outside the 1st line, there isn't really much there.


Not true , they were winning with similar lines before lee got hurt and were a top 10 offensive team.

Wahlstrom has been the isles best goal scorer and PP weapon and trotz made him a healthy scratch because he hates young players.

Tbh both the pens and the isles won’t be making deep runs. Both will be gone by the next round
25 avr. 2021 à 1 h 15
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Not true , they were winning with similar lines before lee got hurt and were a top 10 offensive team.

Wahlstrom has been the isles best goal scorer and PP weapon and trotz made him a healthy scratch because he hates young players.

Tbh both the pens and the isles won’t be making deep runs. Both will be gone by the next round


LOL yeah ok. Pens are probably the favorite to escape the metro at this point. It's between them and WSH.
They got as good a chance as any to win a cup once they get out the metro.

You don't know Trotz and you don't know your own team. We all know what Trotz wants to do. He has never changed in all his time in the NHL.
He thinks gooning wins games. He's been like that well before he got to NY. He'll be like that well after he leaves NY. They lack the talent in the top 9. Period. So in comes a heavy does of your 4th line to "win" games. We both know that's what is going to happen, only one of us is willing to say it out loud and the other is in denial.
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