nope big time overpay. 1 for 1 trade would be more interesting

I mean, PO joseph is on the upswing and considered a second pairing defenseman as early as next year. Patrick has plateaued as a bottom six and has injury concerns. Also requires a protection slot in the expansion draft.. So no.

Plateaued temporarily perhaps but we have like 4 more years of potential he could ascend and naturally has all the tools and precedent to do so I mean...

Absolutely with the injury concerns but like

If his career trajectory is even just like Nichushkin with a really nice start then sobering lull and then becomes a really good player then hey that's just peachy

Chush is one of the NHL Corsi leaders since 2019 😎

1.3 primary pts/60 as well

Joseph>Patrick

that 2nd is just overkill and doesn't even make it look reasonable. So it's instantly hated.

1 for 1...eh I don't really like it for the penguins.
POJ isn't a 2LD like people want to say. He hasn't proven that, he was benched before being sent back down. But the thing is, he wasn't really ready to be up here to begin with. He lacks the size and strength. And they knew that. Once he got exposed that was it for him. People parked down low on him and there wasn't much he could do about it.

But that doesn't mean he won't develop. He's only 21. The potential is there. Just not this year. My guess is next year by mid season we might see him again. Of course it could be Cam Lee.

My belief is that PIT would have to overpay PHI in order to acquire Patrick, which is why I added an extra asset in this deal. I changed it from a 2cnd to a 3rd to make it more fair, and maybe I would do a 4th, but I still think that the second assert is required to make the trade go through.

The flyers arent trading a former 2nd overall pick to the Penguins and they would be asking for a hell of a lot more if they even considered it.