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Sources have indicated that Taylor Hall is interested in resigning. He would be ok with a 3-4 year deal at around 6mil. I have been told that Taylor actually enjoys it in buffalo.

I have this wierd feeling that if Eichel is traded, Hall will turn into a star in Buffalo. Just like NJ
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    4 mars 2021 à 9 h 49
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    What is this every team would decline. Eichel is great but not worth that much. Dallas doesn't want to take on more cap space for decent round picks. Seattle would never pick cody eakin. Philly would never give up that much for a one time season in middlestat he had one good season and that was it.
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    4 mars 2021 à 9 h 52
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    Quoting: dias
    What is this every team would decline. Eichel is great but not worth that much. Dallas doesn't want to take on more cap space for decent round picks. Seattle would never pick cody eakin. Philly would never give up that much for a one time season in middlestat he had one good season and that was it.


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    4 mars 2021 à 9 h 53
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    Dallas declines. Value is fine, but Dallas isn't taking his cap hit & they are closer to being sellers than buyers at the TDL. They'll keep the mid-round picks & the $3.875M in cap space for next season.
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    4 mars 2021 à 9 h 53
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    Rags pass. Take out Kravtsov and Schneider and replace with first pick in year 2022. Sabres cannot have both Kakko and Kravtsov. Pick one.
    4 mars 2021 à 9 h 54
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    Quoting: NYRFan92360244
    Rags pass. Take out Kravtsov and Schneider and replace with first pick in year 2022. Sabres cannot have both Kakko and Kravtsov. Pick one.


    fair enough. would
    Kakko
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    4 mars 2021 à 9 h 55
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    stop suggesting Tage to New York - no one wants him.
    also, Eichel will not return all of that.
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    4 mars 2021 à 9 h 57
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    stop suggesting Tage to New York - no one wants him.
    also, Eichel will not return all of that.



    would
    Kakko
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    Lundkvist
    1st/2nd work
    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 2
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    fair enough. would
    Kakko
    Chyitl
    1st
    Lundkvist
    1st/2nd work


    You added Lundkvist. Take him out. Chytil, Kakko, two picks. Thats it. Take it or leave it.
    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 2
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    what "sources" say Taylor Hall wants to stay in Buffalo ??
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    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 4
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    what "sources" say Taylor Hall wants to stay in Buffalo ??


    https://www.expectedbuffalo.com/buffalo-sabres-trade-and-team-rumblings-hall-gibson-raanta-mete-kulak/

    go to point 7
    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 5
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    You added Lundkvist. Take him out. Chytil, Kakko, two picks. Thats it. Take it or leave it.


    what about strome for cap
    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 12
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    what about strome for cap


    Strome, Chytil, Kakko, and your choice of first round pick in either year 2021 or year 2022.
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    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 13
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    Strome, Chytil, Kakko, and your choice of first round pick in either year 2021 or year 2022.


    fair enough
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    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 19
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    would
    Kakko
    Chyitl
    1st
    Lundkvist
    1st/2nd work


    in my opinion:

    Kakko
    Schneider or Kravtsov
    Strome
    Gauthier or Howden or both for all i care
    2021 1st and maybe a 2nd

    I think if a trade to NYR is possible, Chytil is off the table because Mika would be on his way out - Chytil becomes 2C.
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    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 20
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    Phi would do: Patrick and Gotisbehere for Risto, Mittlestadt and TBL 2nd, but its iffy. If BUF countered with BUF 2nd instead its probably a deal. Risto's advantage over Ghost is similar to Patricks over Mittelstadt, but the higher 2nd would make moving Patrick more palatable, (2nd overall pick, waiting for his migraines to be treated, etc...)

    I think Hall gets a bit more than that
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    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 22
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    in my opinion:

    Kakko
    Schneider or Kravtsov
    Strome
    Gauthier or Howden or both for all i care
    2021 1st and maybe a 2nd

    I think if a trade to NYR is possible, Chytil is off the table because Mika would be on his way out - Chytil becomes 2C.


    I wouldn't say Kakko and Kravtsov. Just include one of those elite guys.
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    4 mars 2021 à 10 h 48
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    I wouldn't say Kakko and Kravtsov. Just include one of those elite guys.


    Kakko and 1st to start for sure. I know it’s a lot, but ur getting a top 10 centre. I personally believe that the return will be bigger than the Karlsson trade. No everyday a top 10 centre is avaliable for trade.

    Many teams will be after him. Could get competitive
    4 mars 2021 à 11 h 8
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    Quoting: Mike_Gartner
    in my opinion:

    Kakko
    Schneider or Kravtsov
    Strome
    Gauthier or Howden or both for all i care
    2021 1st and maybe a 2nd

    I think if a trade to NYR is possible, Chytil is off the table because Mika would be on his way out - Chytil becomes 2C.


    Quoting: Sabres_Insider
    Kakko and 1st to start for sure. I know it’s a lot, but ur getting a top 10 centre. I personally believe that the return will be bigger than the Karlsson trade. No everyday a top 10 centre is avaliable for trade.

    Many teams will be after him. Could get competitive


    Not far off I don’t think.

    The rangers obviously have loved kakkos game this year and it would be very hard for them to give him up. Listened to vinces podcast where he had a sabres reporter on who said they would need more entering prime/current nhl assets to make it work as they still want to compete. That being said I could see something like this:

    Zib+kravtsov+Robertson/Jones+2021 1st+2022 2nd
    Or
    Chytil+Strome+kravtsov+Roberson/Jones+ 2021 1st + 2022 1st (top 5 protected)+ 2022 2nd
    Or
    Chytil+Lundkvist+kravtsov+Robertson/Jones+2021 1st + 2022 2nd


    It’s a lot of pieces but all very good returns that I don’t think any team would be able to beat. It really comes down to what Buffalo wants in the second two trades, a top 5 protected 1st in 2022 + Strome or Lundkvist. I think buchnevich could also be included in a potential trade.

    For rangers, if they go the Chytil option, rangers can always try to trade Zibanejad for really good assets if he wants too much money and hope Chytil takes a step forward or sign a 2c like RNH this offseason for less than Mika will take.
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    4 mars 2021 à 11 h 12
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    Wouldn’t suprise me if it were kravtsov Schneider a roster player either chytil or like a strome (of chytil then one 1st this year and if strome two 1sts
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    Not far off I don’t think.

    The rangers obviously have loved kakkos game this year and it would be very hard for them to give him up. Listened to vinces podcast where he had a sabres reporter on who said they would need more entering prime/current nhl assets to make it work as they still want to compete. That being said I could see something like this:

    Zib+kravtsov+Robertson/Jones+2021 1st+2022 2nd
    Or
    Chytil+Strome+kravtsov+Roberson/Jones+ 2021 1st + 2022 1st (top 5 protected)+ 2022 2nd
    Or
    Chytil+Lundkvist+kravtsov+Robertson/Jones+2021 1st + 2022 2nd


    It’s a lot of pieces but all very good returns that I don’t think any team would be able to beat. It really comes down to what Buffalo wants in the second two trades, a top 5 protected 1st in 2022 + Strome or Lundkvist. I think buchnevich could also be included in a potential trade.

    For rangers, if they go the Chytil option, rangers can always try to trade Zibanejad for really good assets if he wants too much money and hope Chytil takes a step forward or sign a 2c like RNH this offseason for less than Mika will take.


    Quoting: Spanky227
    Not far off I don’t think.

    The rangers obviously have loved kakkos game this year and it would be very hard for them to give him up. Listened to vinces podcast where he had a sabres reporter on who said they would need more entering prime/current nhl assets to make it work as they still want to compete. That being said I could see something like this:

    Zib+kravtsov+Robertson/Jones+2021 1st+2022 2nd
    Or
    Chytil+Strome+kravtsov+Roberson/Jones+ 2021 1st + 2022 1st (top 5 protected)+ 2022 2nd
    Or
    Chytil+Lundkvist+kravtsov+Robertson/Jones+2021 1st + 2022 2nd


    It’s a lot of pieces but all very good returns that I don’t think any team would be able to beat. It really comes down to what Buffalo wants in the second two trades, a top 5 protected 1st in 2022 + Strome or Lundkvist. I think buchnevich could also be included in a potential trade.

    For rangers, if they go the Chytil option, rangers can always try to trade Zibanejad for really good assets if he wants too much money and hope Chytil takes a step forward or sign a 2c like RNH this offseason for less than Mika will take.

    I wouldn’t touch zibby if I was buffalo
    4 mars 2021 à 13 h 12
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    I wouldn’t touch zibby if I was buffalo


    I mean the way he started off this year is similar to how eichel has. Neither is the player they were last year. It really depends on if Buffalo wants a player that can step into a 1c role no problem right away or not. It’s hard to overlook zibanejads 41 goals + 75 points in 56 games last year. Him not playing well kills their middle depth which is the only reason they would trade for eichel to begin with. Zib has a nmc too so I doubt he would approve Buffalo anyway. It’s a very tricky situation for both teams as rangers won’t give away multiple of their best assets (nor will any team); I don’t envy the position Buffalo may be in if Eichel officially requests the trade.
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    I mean the way he started off this year is similar to how eichel has. Neither is the player they were last year. It really depends on if Buffalo wants a player that can step into a 1c role no problem right away or not. It’s hard to overlook zibanejads 41 goals + 75 points in 56 games last year. Him not playing well kills their middle depth which is the only reason they would trade for eichel to begin with. Zib has a nmc too so I doubt he would approve Buffalo anyway. It’s a very tricky situation for both teams as rangers won’t give away multiple of their best assets (nor will any team); I don’t envy the position Buffalo may be in if Eichel officially requests the trade.


    i would prefer kakko
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    i would prefer kakko


    The thing is like I said rangers are ridiculously high on him with the start he had. While the points weren’t there he completely drove play every shift, was really good on defense, etc. It’s more of the rangers wouldn’t add the pieces Buffalo would want ON TOP of kakko in order to facilitate the deal. They’d still want miller, Lundkvist, kravtsov or Chytil plus a first rounder (and probably more) and it just wouldn’t fly with the rangers org.
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    4 mars 2021 à 13 h 48
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    https://www.expectedbuffalo.com/buffalo-sabres-trade-and-team-rumblings-hall-gibson-raanta-mete-kulak/

    go to point 7


    that's like hockey buzz EK stuff, it's click bait. you honestly believe Taylor Hall is going to sign long term in Buffalo for less money than what he's currently making? if that was the case, why wouldn't he sign for less from the get go? It's a local writer trying to get clicks.
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