that Ullmark trade makes no sense unless Carolina is offering something you cant turn down. Would make more sense just to keep him and hope he signs a extension

Ullmark is certainly a nice temptation in a goalie market which is otherwise pretty baron. It's likely he and Saros are the only two who will be available for US based teams, so this is certainly tempting for Carolina, especially since you take Reimer back too.

the penguins got like 9 defensemen, they aren't trading for one.
But if you want Riikola we are more than happy to accept a 4th or something for him. Our expectations aren't insane.