Mark Stone and the 2019 Trade Deadline

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Créé par: benkel

Équipe: 2020-21 Sénateurs d'Ottawa

Date de création initiale: 17 févr. 2021

Publié: 17 févr. 2021

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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It's 2 hours to the deadline and Mark Stone is a pending UFA who refuses to resign with Ottawa.

You're unhappy with what other teams have offered you for Stone so far.

Some teams have lost interest already and are very busy talking to other teams about other priorities.

Vegas "comes to the rescue" as the hour grows late.

They basically offer you Brannstrom and a 2020 2nd for Stone.

They also have an extension ready to go for Stone in the event a trade takes place.

You feel the return for Stone is "light" and "anaemic".

What else do you ask for without being greedy and making Vegas lose interest?

Was Brannstrom and a 2020 2nd really the best Ottawa could have got for Stone?

Let me know what you think :)

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OTT

Glass, Cody

Détails additionnels:

Maybe another 2nd round pick? I could maybe live without an additional 2nd if Vegas added Cody Glass in addition to what Ottawa actually got.

VGK

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	67 162 582 $	0 $	8 020 000 $	14 337 418 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Tkachuk, Brady 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) AG UFA - 1	Tierney, Chris 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ C UFA - 2	Brown, Connor 3 600 000 $3 600 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
Paul, Nicholas 749 250 $749 250 $ C, AG UFA - 2	White, Colin 4 750 000 $4 750 000 $ C, AD UFA - 5	Dadonov, Evgeni 2 500 000 $2 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 3
Stützle, Tim 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 500 000 $$2M) C UFA - 3	Glass, Cody 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AD RFA - 2	Batherson, Drake 736 666 $736 666 $ (20 000 $$20K) AD, AG UFA - 1
Dzingel, Ryan 3 375 000 $3 375 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 1	Norris, Joshua 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) C UFA - 2	Watson, Austin 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 3
	Stepan, Derek 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Chabot, Thomas 8 000 000 $8 000 000 $ DG UFA - 8	Zaitsev, Nikita 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 4	Murray, Matt 4 687 500 $4 687 500 $ G UFA - 4
Reilly, Mike 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Zub, Artem 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) DD UFA - 1	Högberg, Marcus 700 000 $700 000 $ G UFA - 1
Brännström, Erik 863 333 $863 333 $ (450 000 $$450K) DG/DD, AG RFA - 2	Gudbranson, Erik 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Wolanin, Christian 900 000 $900 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Brown, Joshua 1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ DD UFA - 2

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Anisimov, Artem 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ (3 475 000 $$3M3 475 000 $$3M) C, AG UFA - 1
Coburn, Braydon 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ (625 000 $$625K625 000 $$625K) DG NTC UFA - 1
Daccord, Joey 750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) G UFA - 3
Haley, Micheal 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) C UFA - 1
Peca, Matthew 700 000 $700 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0) AG, C UFA - 1

17 févr. 2021 à 10 h 30

jnowariak

Rejoint: août 2020

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Had you traded him preseason, yes. But an hour to the deadline, you take what you can get. That’s on the GM for not acting when he should have.

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17 févr. 2021 à 10 h 33

PhatRas

Banni

Rejoint: avr. 2017

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The Flames deal fell apart because the Flames didn't want to give up Valimaki, I think looking bad on that it wasn't the worst decision but with how the right side of our forward group looks I would be very inclined to take a do over on that. I do think that getting a 9 million dollar extension for Stone would have been tough, we would still be strapped with either James Neal or a James Neal buyout, Andersson wouldn't have gotten the great deal he's on now, and Markstrom/Tanev likely wouldn't be a thing.

Valimaki
1st
B ish Prospect

for

Stone

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17 févr. 2021 à 10 h 42

Habs696969

Rejoint: janv. 2021

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An unfortunate return for ottawa. Top 15 player in the league. I agree that if you traded him before the season they would have been able to get a way bigger return especially with an extension in place and there would have been more suitors. IMO they should have been able to get a teams top prospect

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17 févr. 2021 à 10 h 48

Ragsandbluesfan

Rangers 2023

Rejoint: nov. 2017

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Ottawa would have lost any stone trade

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17 févr. 2021 à 10 h 52

uphillmoss

Rejoint: août 2020

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I'd take brannstrom over glass 1000 times out of 1000 and your a foul if you think otherwise

17 févr. 2021 à 10 h 54

benkel

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: mai 2019

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Quoting: uphillmoss

I'd take brannstrom over glass 1000 times out of 1000 and your a foul if you think otherwise

In my hypothetical scenario, Ottawa gets both Brannstrom and Glass.

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17 févr. 2021 à 10 h 55

uphillmoss

Rejoint: août 2020

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Quoting: benkel

In my hypothetical scenario, Ottawa gets both Brannstrom and Glass.

okay i didn't see that. Thanks!

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17 févr. 2021 à 11 h 4

tsyls

Rejoint: juin 2019

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Holy sh*t looking back on this makes me so mad. I know Winnipeg was in heavy on stone, but they didn’t want to give up Roslovic I think. What a joke, while we didn’t know at the time how stone wound end up, he was still very good in Ottawa. Why didn’t Chevy trade Roslovic and a 1st for stone?!?

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17 févr. 2021 à 11 h 9

benkel

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Quoting: tsyls

Maybe because Chevy didn't want to be forced to give Stone an 8-year extension at 9.5 million per.

Which was what happened with Vegas.

17 févr. 2021 à 11 h 18

#10

total_knut

Rejoint: juill. 2019

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Like most trades at the deadline, you can't truly evaluate it this early. It will be years before we see how it all shakes down. But yes, when Stone was acquired we were all in a little shock and waited anxiously to find out "what else did we give up?"

But I sure hope the praise Dorian gave Brannstrom that fateful afternoon comes through for you guys. Honestly, I just don't know how a 5'9" 180lb d-man makes an NHL career. How does he move the average forward out from in front of the net? When VGK drafted him we were all saying the same thing "geez, I hope he's still growing". All that said, I wish that kid nothing but success and I hope he can figure out a way to stick.

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17 févr. 2021 à 11 h 22

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tsyls

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Quoting: benkel

Maybe because Chevy didn't want to be forced to give Stone an 8-year extension at 9.5 million per.

Which was what happened with Vegas.

I mean to be fair I’d be paying him that much.. he’s a top 10 winger in the league. Best two way winger in the league too.

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