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The Kids Are Better Than Expected; Moves That Make Sense

Créé par: davcrook
Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 5 déc. 2016
Publié: 5 déc. 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
32 100 000 $
31 750 000 $
21 150 000 $
54 100 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 500 000 $
12 500 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
    Lost to Vegas in Expansion Draft
    2.
    TOR
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (CBJ)
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (CBJ)
    3.
    TOR
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
    4.
    ANA
    1. Leivo, Josh
    2. van Riemsdyk, James
    3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
    5.
    LAK
    1. Gardiner, Jake
    2. Rychel, Kerby
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
    Rachats de contrats
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
    2018
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de CBJ
    Logo de NSH
    Logo de SJS
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de CBJ
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    2019
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    2020
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    Logo de TOR
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2373 000 000 $56 072 499 $5 370 000 $5 782 500 $16 927 501 $

    Formation

    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 4
    925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
    C
    UFA - 2
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD
    UFA - 2
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AG
    UFA - 1
    894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AD
    UFA - 1
    863 333 $863 333 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
    C
    UFA - 5
    2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 3
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 3
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    AG, C
    UFA - 2
    736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance125 000 $$125K)
    AD
    UFA - 1
    2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 1
    863 333 $863 333 $
    C
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 5
    2 437 500 $2 437 500 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 7
    697 500 $697 500 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
    DG
    UFA - 3
    750 000 $750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
    G
    UFA
    863 333 $863 333 $
    DG/DD
    UFA - 3
    Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
    AD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 3

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    5 déc. 2016 à 20 h 59
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    With how good leafs drafting is looking I wouldn't move a 1st round pick and that does look like too much for Muzzin in my opinion.
    I also think that 1st pairing is too offensive focused and that Vatanen isn't a good fit in Toronto, especially as you don't have him on the PP at all.
    Ritchie is intriguing but his 50 or so games in the NHL have resulted in very few points and is already 21. I'm not sure if he will be able to score in the NHL like he has in other leagues.
    Rychel has actually scored more points than Ritchie in 20 less nhl games and is only 1 year older.
    5 déc. 2016 à 22 h 37
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    LongtimeLeafsufferer
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    That's a terrible trade for Muzzin. Giving up Gardiner and future 1st. With cap room, why not go the UFA or trade with team with cap problems instead of giving up so much, Why would CBJ trade two draft picks for Bozak who has one year on his contract......Maybe they should sign a centre Boyle? or someone else for 4.25m and they would be much better off. That's real weak LW without JVR and Komarov. The idea is still to win and get the team in the playoffs not to collect endless draft picks. Vatanan might be nice....but again with some cap flexibility maybe another signing would allow you to get your draft picks or JVR.
    Leafs gave plenty of LWers upcoming who just as much potential as Ritchie.
    5 déc. 2016 à 23 h 26
    #3
    Banni
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    The Boyle signing isn't so good because he's getting up there in age and he's declining, so it might cause cap problems 2-3 years from now. Good player (for his role) but 1-2 years would be ideal.

    And Bozie is more valuable than just those two picks.
    6 déc. 2016 à 2 h 9
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    I said it earlier today and I'll say it again. The Leafs don't need another puck moving defenseman and one that's smaller than 6 foot. Also, that's too much for Vatenen, considering JVR is part of the mix. Ritchie is not valuable at all in my opinion and right now all the Leafs need is a big, stay at home, RHD to play big minutes for them, or at least someone who isn't afraid to throw his body around and intimidate the other teams.
    Bozak is a mentor for the youngsters, whether that's valuable enough to keep him around, I'm not sure, but I can tell you the Leafs will wait as long as they can before moving him, and not for two second round picks that's for sure. I really like Muzzin, but Gardiner and a first plus Rychel? I don't think that's happening. And again, the Leafs don't need LHD right now. The pipeline is strong for the future.
    I like Boyle as well, but as said above he is getting older, as if Dom Moore, so I don't see those signings happening for the Leafs, and it doesn't make sense to me to move Bozak and then bring in two - much older players, in the decline of their career who will more than likely find themselves getting waived - for more than the price of Bozak.
    6 déc. 2016 à 16 h 56
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    leafs1967again
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    Quoting: Wotisthebest
    With how good leafs drafting is looking I wouldn't move a 1st round pick and that does look like too much for Muzzin in my opinion.
    I also think that 1st pairing is too offensive focused and that Vatanen isn't a good fit in Toronto, especially as you don't have him on the PP at all.
    Ritchie is intriguing but his 50 or so games in the NHL have resulted in very few points and is already 21. I'm not sure if he will be able to score in the NHL like he has in other leagues.
    Rychel has actually scored more points than Ritchie in 20 less nhl games and is only 1 year older.


    You are not good at drafting when you have top picks. I am fine moving some picks down the road that will be later 1sts if it is worth it. Not sure it is here.
     
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