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Hamilton

Créé par: DD67
Équipe: 2016-17 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 14 nov. 2016
Publié: 14 nov. 2016
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
CGY
  1. Fleury, Marc-André (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Jarry, Tristan
  3. Määttä, Olli
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2017 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
1st becomes a 2nd if PIT misses the playoffs and becomes a 2018 first if they are a lottery team
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2373 000 000 $69 750 416 $0 $940 000 $3 249 584 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
667 500 $667 500 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 9
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
6 800 000 $6 800 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
640 000 $640 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
625 000 $625 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
625 000 $625 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
612 500 $612 500 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
628 333 $628 333 $ (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
G
UFA - 1
3 300 000 $3 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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14 nov. 2016 à 16 h 30
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.
14 nov. 2016 à 17 h 3
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Bad deal for pens
14 nov. 2016 à 17 h 13
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Elliott's not really working out. Better or worse MAF is consistently league average. I think both D Men would be better off in the new team's system rather than their current ones.
14 nov. 2016 à 17 h 14
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Bad deal for pens


Getting the relief from MAF in and of itself makes the deal worth it. Upgrading the defense is the cherry on top.
14 nov. 2016 à 17 h 15
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Elliott's not really working out. Better or worse MAF is consistently league average. I think both D Men would be better off in the new team's system rather than their current ones.


I don't think Calgary's "activate the d-men in the offensive zone" system works for Maata any better than Pittsburgh's.
15 nov. 2016 à 2 h 22
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One rumor and everyone assumes Hamilton is going to the Pens.
15 nov. 2016 à 9 h 20
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.
15 nov. 2016 à 9 h 41
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910
15 nov. 2016 à 15 h 18
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910


And the fact Jarry is thrown in?? No value to that?
15 nov. 2016 à 16 h 14
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910


And the fact Jarry is thrown in?? No value to that?


In all honesty swapping the G prospects is more about keeping the two clubs' pipelines flowing. The Flames need a prospect who'll be ready sooner rather than later. Jarry's trajectory has always been to take over for Flower. No reason to change that now. The Penguins don't need another young stud goalie for the foreseeable future. So they'll take the younger guy from Calgary who'd otherwise clog up their AHL net (which now belongs to Jarry).
15 nov. 2016 à 16 h 24
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So pens get the better goalie and dman? Yea don't think thats a fair trade.


Hahahahaha Elliott's .885 save % says otherwise. And (in this scenario) Jarry is thrown in who's probably a top-10 goalie prospect.


Yup lets use a 12 game sample size instead of the last 3 years in which Elliott has had better numbers.

Last 3 seasons:
Elliot- .929
MAF- .919

11 games this year:
Elliot- .882
MAF- .910


That's all situations. Even strength it's .929 for Elliott and .926 for Fleury (2012/13 through 2015/16 so I'm not even including Elliott's poor start this year). On the PK they're still similar with Fleury at .900 sv% to Elliot's .895. Fleury has almost 60% more 4v5 TOI than Elliott to boot.

They are not drastically different from each other in terms of performance. But Fleury has established that he can be a team's #1 goalie and sustain those numbers. This is Elliott's chance to do so and he hasn't capitalized on it yet.
 
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