Its not biased, I was facetious, and you can pick and choose stats you like, whats biased is Jokiharju has similar stats and Jokiharju couldnt ever be a top pair guy but Dobson totally will be

They don’t have similar stats and ceilings. I’ve never even seen a scout say that jokiharju will be a top pairing D, it’s always been the general consensus that he will be a solid #3.

Comparing Dobson and jokiharju is like comparing kieffer bellows and olofsson.

Lol
That buffalo trade is trash
Never in a million years.

Try watching him play, his ceiling is a top pair dman. You know, kind of like when he was paired with Keith in Chicago

I have watched him play, he’s a good player. Just because you play on the top pairing doesn’t mean you’re a top pairing caliber D. Darnell nurse and Ethan bear played top pairing minutes last season and both are 2nd pairing caliber D.

Lol

There is only 1 thing that makes someone a top pairing dman, ita playing on the top pair.

It is close and the gap isn't two cap dumps from NYI and 2 picks from buf

Not all teams have two top pairing caliber D. On a lot of teams nurse + bear would be on the 2nd or 3rd pairing. It matters if the player can actually succeed in a top pairing role, just going by TOI is a terrible way of evaluating a defenseman.

Disagree but I understand why Buffalo wouldn’t make the trade. Dobson is untouchable

Thats fine you can keep him.

Their 1st year stats are nearly identical. As well as their PNHLe chart. Also If Jokiharju had a 5v5 goal then he would have beaten him in the Skatr score as well:
https://public.tableau.com/shared/Y7D9B2DJ9?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link
(5v5 percentiles based on per 60 rates)

And this is why context matters. Quality of teammates affects players performance more than quality of competition. Look at jokiharju QOT with the Blackhawks and then this season with the Sabres. His QOT dropped to average this year and his underlying numbers took a hit.

Look at Dobson’s QOT. Dobson played with Johnny boychuk and he had to play on his offside. Boychuk was worth -0.9 wins this season and was the 4th worst defenseman in the league this - and Dobson’s underlying numbers were still very strong.

Again, I’m not trying to sh*t on jokiharju but it’s not that close. A comparable for jokiharju is Dante fabbro . Solid defensively , better suited for a 2nd pairing role.

Quality of opponents matters more. You can pick and choose stats you like more all you want

No it does not. The analytics community always talks about how QOT affects performance a lot more than QOC.

Informal poll:
A very average fringe NHLer would garner about 8 5v5 points playing 8.39 TOI/GP over about 55 GP (so ~1.04 p/60).
If you put that player on a league average 1st line for a season (average 1st line QoT, QoC, TOI, GP) what would be their new point total and p/60?

— Garret Hohl (@GarretHohl) October 20, 2020

Based on my numbers 29 5v5 pts with a p/60 rate of 1.6 on the top line. So despite the QoC going up, the QoT is way bigger deal and they see a near 60% increase in scoring rate.

— Garret Hohl (@GarretHohl) October 20, 2020

0 faith in that guy but willing to look at others from the community