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Jeff Gorton Centers Exist

Créé par: BroadwayBlueshirtz
Date de création initiale: oct 24, 2020
Publié: 24 oct 2020 à 23 h 02
Équipe: 2020-21 Rangers de New York
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Lemieux, Brendan11 000 000 $
Transactions
NYR
  1. Lindholm, Elias
CGY
  1. Strome, Ryan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Chytil, Filip
  3. Skinner, Hunter [Liste de réserve]
  4. 2021 1e round pick (NYR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Kevin Shattenkirk: 6 083 333 $
  • Henrik Lundqvist: 5 500 000 $
  • Dan Girardi: 1 111 111 $
  • Ryan Spooner: 300 000 $
  • Brad Richards: 0 $
Enfoui
  • Jack Johnson: 75 000 $ (1 150 000 $)
  • Brendan Smith: 3 275 000 $ (4 350 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
NYR
BUF
NYR
OTT
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
2023
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $76 288 134 $0 $11 845 000 $5 211 866 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
NYR
Lafrenière, Alexis
925 000 $
AG
RFA - 3
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Buchnevich, Pavel
3 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 1
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
11 642 857 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
CGY
Lindholm, Elias
4 850 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 4
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
NYR
Kreider, Chris
6 500 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Howden, Brett
863 333 $
C
RFA - 1
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
925 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
NYR
Barron, Morgan
925 000 $
C
RFA - 3
NYR
Gauthier, Julien
863 333 $
AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
NYR
Lindgren, Ryan
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
NYR
Fox, Adam
925 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
NYR
Shesterkin, Igor
925 000 $
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Miller, K'Andre
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
8 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
2 425 000 $
G
RFA - 2
NYR
Robertson, Matthew
811 667 $
DG
RFA - 3
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
4 800 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
NYR
Bitetto, Anthony
737 500 $
DG
UFA - 2
NYR
Di Giuseppe, Phillip
700 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
NYR
Rooney, Kevin
750 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2

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24 oct 2020 à 23 h 05
#1
Ragsandbluesfan
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>wants a center

>trades for a RWer just to play him at C
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 06
#2
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BleedinBlue since‘96
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
>wants a center

>trades for a RWer just to play him at C


Elias Lindholm has center capabilities and qualities. Much better options than Ryan Strome of all players.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 06
#3
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
Elias Lindholm has center capabilities and qualities. Much better options than Ryan Strome of all players.


He took favorable draws all year and was still under 50%, we need a natural C who's a PK and faceoff specialist, think danault
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 08
#4
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Quoting: Ragsandbluesfan
He took favorable draws all year and was still under 50%


Still have a 31 goal scorer near 80 point player over Strome being the beneficiary of Artemi Panarin. It’s getting ridiculous. Gorton isn’t addressing the center and defense issues.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 09
#5
Ragsandbluesfan
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
Still have a 31 goal scorer near 80 point player over Strome being the beneficiary of Artemi Panarin. It’s getting ridiculous. Gorton isn’t addressing the center and defense issues.


C is our only real problem, our D "problem" can be solved by just developing our D prospects
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24 oct 2020 à 23 h 11
#6
Big Buch Energy
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Ah yes trade Strome, our most promising young C, and a 1st for slightly better Ryan Strome...
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 14
#7
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That's a pretty easy no from Calgary. Lindholm is borderline untouchable
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 15
#8
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Quoting: buchiegang
Ah yes trade Strome, our most promising young C, and a 1st for slightly better Ryan Strome...


Strome is 27. He is defensively irresponsible. Gorton has already confirmed he’s shopped him. And most obviously, a beneficiary of Artemi Panarin’s production.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 16
#9
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
That's a pretty easy no from Calgary. Lindholm is borderline untouchable

Could I add? Or simply not a piece Calgary wants to move?
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 18
#10
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
Could I add? Or simply not a piece Calgary wants to move?


Look at it this way, wpuld you trade Zibanejad for that package?
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 19
#11
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Look at it this way, wpuld you trade Zibanejad for that package?


To be honest, I would trade Zibanejad for similar value of different players. Like if a team offers a few high quality centers I would yes/
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 24
#12
aecliptic
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
Strome is 27. He is defensively irresponsible. Gorton has already confirmed he’s shopped him. And most obviously, a beneficiary of Artemi Panarin’s production.


You say that hes a beneficiary like its a bad thing. It could have been worse and he could have played with Panarin and sucked, but he didnt and he took advantage of the opportunity.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 28
#13
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Quoting: aecliptic
You say that hes a beneficiary like its a bad thing. It could have been worse and he could have played with Panarin and sucked, but he didnt and he took advantage of the opportunity.


He’s a career 30-35 point player. If he played with stars like Tavares and Panarin of course he’s going to produce. They elevate his game. A 3C with a star is a 2C. He’s just not a player who can be relied on without Panarin. I want him gone. Gorton needs to walk up and find a replacement.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 31
#14
aecliptic
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
He’s a career 30-35 point player. If he played with stars like Tavares and Panarin of course he’s going to produce. They elevate his game. A 3C with a star is a 2C. He’s just not a player who can be relied on without Panarin. I want him gone. Gorton needs to walk up and find a replacement.


You make it sound like there are 1C and 2C centers a plethora just being shopped around all over the league.
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24 oct 2020 à 23 h 32
#15
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Quoting: aecliptic
You make it sound like there are 1C and 2C centers a plethora just being shopped around all over the league.


Exactly why Gorton needs a beating. He relies on that to fix his issues. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to do it through the draft.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 35
#16
aecliptic
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
Exactly why Gorton needs a beating. He relies on that to fix his issues. It’s obvious he doesn’t want to do it through the draft.


Why because they didnt want to draft Hendrix Lapierre? If in 3 years he turns into a bust, you then blame them for not taking someone else or having aweful scouting. Youre just that guy that needs something to complain about.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 37
#17
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Quoting: aecliptic
Why because they didnt want to draft Hendrix Lapierre? If in 3 years he turns into a bust, you then blame them for not taking someone else or having aweful scouting. Youre just that guy that needs something to complain about.


That’s rich. A general manager that has failed everything he’s initiated. Winning. Rebuilding. Configuring. He’s done a poor job. How are you going to win a Stanley cup without center ice men?

Also I didn’t need Lapierre. I wanted a CENTER. Not a 50th defenseman. You can only play 6 a night and he has drafted more than 10 in the last 2 drafts.
24 oct 2020 à 23 h 46
#18
aecliptic
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
That’s rich. A general manager that has failed everything he’s initiated. Winning. Rebuilding. Configuring. He’s done a poor job. How are you going to win a Stanley cup without center ice men?

Also I didn’t need Lapierre. I wanted a CENTER. Not a 50th defenseman. You can only play 6 a night and he has drafted more than 10 in the last 2 drafts.


Lapierre is a center, the highest ranked one on the board when the Rangers moved up... but good on you for knowing that. When they moved up thats who I thought they were targeting.

Ill trust them till I dont, its JD's first year drafting with us and between what he built in STL and CBJ Im willing to wait and see whats in the plans. Hate the Schneider pick all you want, but seeing JD as excited as he was getting him is awesome.
25 oct 2020 à 1 h 06
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Quoting: aecliptic
Lapierre is a center, the highest ranked one on the board when the Rangers moved up... but good on you for knowing that. When they moved up thats who I thought they were targeting.

Ill trust them till I dont, its JD's first year drafting with us and between what he built in STL and CBJ Im willing to wait and see whats in the plans. Hate the Schneider pick all you want, but seeing JD as excited as he was getting him is awesome.


I love the pick but positionally speaking it made no sense over Lapierre or a center. It’s like getting shot in the arm and treating your leg.
25 oct 2020 à 2 h 07
#20
aecliptic
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Quoting: BroadwayBlueshirtz
I love the pick but positionally speaking it made no sense over Lapierre or a center. It’s like getting shot in the arm and treating your leg.


Trust me, when they made the pick I had flashbacks to when they took McIlrath over Tarasenko, but Im trying to be optimistic.

I will, have and plan to continue wishing for my pipedream pull that they go after Barkov after he realizes what kind of failure the Panthers organization is and its a waste of his talents.
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25 oct 2020 à 2 h 27
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Quoting: aecliptic
Trust me, when they made the pick I had flashbacks to when they took McIlrath over Tarasenko, but Im trying to be optimistic.

I will, have and plan to continue wishing for my pipedream pull that they go after Barkov after he realizes what kind of failure the Panthers organization is and its a waste of his talents.

But it’s such a reach. Something so important and they except a random team to make them available? It’s dumb.
25 oct 2020 à 7 h 09
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Modifié 25 oct 2020 à 7 h 15
Quoting: buchiegang
Ah yes trade Strome, our most promising young C, and a 1st for slightly better Ryan Strome...


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Yeah, he's so reliable.
 
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