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The Only League Wide Laine Trade of Sense

Créé par: Wqrrior
Date de création initiale: oct 17, 2020
Publié: 17 oct 2020 à 2 h 58
Équipe: 2020-21 Jets de Winnipeg
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Harkins, Jansen2800 000 $
Roslovic, Jack22 400 000 $
Transactions
WPG
  1. Sanheim, Travis
  2. Patrick, Nolan
  3. van Riemsdyk, James (1 500 000 $ retained)
  4. 2021 1e round pick (PHI)
Détails additionnels:
Jets need: Top 6 replacement / prospect + top 4 defenseman.

- Sanheim: Massively underrated and has top pair upside. Already a top 3 defenseman most anywhere
- Patrick (Or SUB: Frost) Similar ceiling to Laine once healthy again. Risk piece, but could pay off if he regains his health.

- Retained JVR for Perreault - Stopgap middle six scorer, good if used right. Makes the cap work
PHI
  1. Laine, Patrik
  2. Perreault, Mathieu
  3. 2022 3e round pick (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Flyers need: A sniper, someone to round off their top 6 / take the crown from Giroux

Laine Needs: Top line ice time. Elite forwards. Winning team
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2021
WPG
PHI
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2022
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
2023
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
WPG
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $77 555 314 $0 $150 000 $3 944 686 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
WPG
Ehlers, Nikolaj
6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
WPG
Scheifele, Mark
6 125 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Wheeler, Blake
8 250 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 4
WPG
Connor, Kyle
7 142 857 $
AG
UFA - 6
WPG
Stastny, Paul
6 500 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 1
PHI
Patrick, Nolan
874 125 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
PHI
van Riemsdyk, James
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
WPG
Copp, Andrew
2 280 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
WPG
Roslovic, Jack
2 400 000 $
AD, C
RFA
WPG
Harkins, Jansen
800 000 $
AG
RFA - 2
WPG
Lowry, Adam
2 916 666 $
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Appleton, Mason
900 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
WPG
Morrissey, Joshua
6 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
WPG
DeMelo, Dylan
3 000 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Hellebuyck, Connor
6 166 666 $
G
UFA - 4
PHI
Sanheim, Travis
3 250 000 $
DG
RFA - 1
WPG
Pionk, Neal
3 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
WPG
Brossoit, Laurent
1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
WPG
Samberg, Dylan
925 000 $
DG
RFA - 3
WPG
Forbort, Derek
1 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
WPG
Poolman, Tucker
775 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
WPG
Little, Bryan
5 291 667 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 4
WPG
Thompson, Nate
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
WPG
Beaulieu, Nathan
1 250 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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17 oct 2020 à 3 h 03
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If Patrick is playing this is a pretty bad deal for the flyers imo
17 oct 2020 à 3 h 07
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Wqrrior
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Quoting: papishark
If Patrick is playing this is a pretty bad deal for the flyers imo


At this point I think we have to view JVR as a pure cap dump. He was a scratch some games in the playoffs. Essentially moving that 1st just to dump the two years after of JVR to make the trade work. Patrick is probably capped at a 2nd liner. Clearly a risk, but as a flyers fan I think the time to move Patrick is now.
17 oct 2020 à 3 h 10
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Quoting: Wqrrior
At this point I think we have to view JVR as a pure cap dump. He was a scratch some games in the playoffs. Essentially moving that 1st just to dump the two years after of JVR to make the trade work. Patrick is probably capped at a 2nd liner. Clearly a risk, but as a flyers fan I think the time to move Patrick is now.


I honestly had no idea you were a flyers fan, I kind of assumed tampa or vancouver
17 oct 2020 à 7 h 20
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Quoting: Wqrrior
At this point I think we have to view JVR as a pure cap dump. He was a scratch some games in the playoffs. Essentially moving that 1st just to dump the two years after of JVR to make the trade work. Patrick is probably capped at a 2nd liner. Clearly a risk, but as a flyers fan I think the time to move Patrick is now.


JVR at 5.5m is pretty much fair value for a 25 goal scorer. The playoff roster was a mess, so I caution against using a handful of games after a long delay to measure who is able. JVR was most likely a victim of a complete lack of bottom six talent at center. With someone like Patrick or Frost stepping in, JVR’s game will fit much better than trying to put a scorer out with grant or Thompson.

Also I’m in the minority that says Laine is over-rated for what he currently provides. He had 3 more goals than TK this season but people act like he is a perennial Richard favorite. Add in the lack of any other aspect in his game and the moody behavior and the player screams high-risk.
17 oct 2020 à 10 h 21
#5
Rejoint: sep 2018
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Quoting: ALitteral
JVR at 5.5m is pretty much fair value for a 25 goal scorer. The playoff roster was a mess, so I caution against using a handful of games after a long delay to measure who is able. JVR was most likely a victim of a complete lack of bottom six talent at center. With someone like Patrick or Frost stepping in, JVR’s game will fit much better than trying to put a scorer out with grant or Thompson.

Also I’m in the minority that says Laine is over-rated for what he currently provides. He had 3 more goals than TK this season but people act like he is a perennial Richard favorite. Add in the lack of any other aspect in his game and the moody behavior and the player screams high-risk.


also if he doesn't play on the top line, we'll hear about it in the media every night. not worth it imo
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