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Habs Making More Moves

Créé par: habrye
Équipe: 2020-21 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 14 oct. 2020
Publié: 14 oct. 2020
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14 oct. 2020 à 14 h 38
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Lol neither of those contracts have remotely positive value
14 oct. 2020 à 15 h 4
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Lol neither of those contracts have remotely positive value


For a 3rd? I think it's possible to get those deals done. Regardless, trade them for a 4th or whatever. No big deal. They are not as difficult to move as you are implying
14 oct. 2020 à 15 h 8
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Lol neither of those contracts have remotely positive value


Lol yourself. Look at how much Edm is paying Koskinen and how much Arizona is paying Raanta, now try telling us that Jake Allen contract is worthless.
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14 oct. 2020 à 15 h 13
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For a 3rd? I think it's possible to get those deals done. Regardless, trade them for a 4th or whatever. No big deal. They are not as difficult to move as you are implying


Tyler Johnson wasn't claimed off waivers for free and he is marginally better than Byron, why tf would anyone take Byron without a sweetener attached?
14 oct. 2020 à 15 h 16
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Lol yourself. Look at how much Edm is paying Koskinen and how much Arizona is paying Raanta, now try telling us that Jake Allen contract is worthless.
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Both are better than Allen for starters, especially Raanta. Raanta is making less than Allen too so that argument doesn't even make sense. Edmonton isn't trying to move Koskanen so that also doesn't make sense. Maybe you will get lucky and Seattle will take that Allen contract off you next year but no one is touching it right now
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Tyler Johnson wasn't claimed off waivers for free and he is marginally better than Byron, why tf would anyone take Byron without a sweetener attached?


Blackhawks need a goalie and Allen fits. Fits better than any UFA goalie left on the market

Johnson has more term and a higher cap hit vs Byron. Byron has dealt with injuries in the last two years yes but he's healthy now. Byron's pt/game numbers over the last two years are pretty close to Johnson's. Byron had 4 pts in 10 games with a +4 rating this past playoffs while Johnson had 7 pts in 25 games and a -6 rating. Byron is a great piece to have on any teams roster. Dangerous on the PK and his speed can be a game changer on any given night.

* Johnson is owed $3.75M, $5.5M, $3.75M, and $4.75M
* Byron is owed $2.8M, $4M, $2.8M

You are making a big deal out of nothing. You move them for whatever you can get. It's not as difficult as you are implying. You got a better comparison than Johnson?
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Both are better than Allen for starters, especially Raanta. Raanta is making less than Allen too so that argument doesn't even make sense. Edmonton isn't trying to move Koskanen so that also doesn't make sense. Maybe you will get lucky and Seattle will take that Allen contract off you next year but no one is touching it right now


You are underselling Allen. Allen's real value is in year 2 and 3 with the extension.
14 oct. 2020 à 15 h 29
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Both are better than Allen for starters, especially Raanta. Raanta is making less than Allen too so that argument doesn't even make sense. Edmonton isn't trying to move Koskanen so that also doesn't make sense. Maybe you will get lucky and Seattle will take that Allen contract off you next year but no one is touching it right now


I disagree with you 100%. Allen is better than both of those guys, and Allen took a pay hit over two years.
For a backup goalie who will be playing 25/30 games a year, this is a good contract.
The only thing I don't like about it is I am hoping Primeau can come in sooner.
Also, Bergy needs to have Allen signed for the Exp draft (he has to have a signed goalie to offer unprotected)
14 oct. 2020 à 15 h 38
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Blackhawks need a goalie and Allen fits. Fits better than any UFA goalie left on the market

Johnson has more term and a higher cap hit vs Byron. Byron has dealt with injuries in the last two years yes but he's healthy now. Byron's pt/game numbers over the last two years are pretty close to Johnson's. Byron had 4 pts in 10 games with a +4 rating this past playoffs while Johnson had 7 pts in 25 games and a -6 rating. Byron is a great piece to have on any teams roster. Dangerous on the PK and his speed can be a game changer on any given night.

Your making a big deal out of nothing. You move them for whatever you can get. It's not as difficult as you are implying. You got a better comparison than Johnson?


Chicago has been very open about giving their young goalies the reins

Byron paced 28 points this year, Johnson paced 37. That's nearly a 10 point difference. Johnson is also a top 6 player on most teams where Byron is not. Sure Byron is a nice piece on any roster... if he cost the same as Toby Rieder.

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You are underselling Allen. Allen's real value is in year 2 and 3 with the extension.


How can I be underselling him if you are trying to trade him while his cap hit is still 4.35M?
14 oct. 2020 à 15 h 48
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Chicago has been very open about giving their young goalies the reins

Byron paced 28 points this year, Johnson paced 37. That's nearly a 10 point difference. Johnson is also a top 6 player on most teams where Byron is not. Sure Byron is a nice piece on any roster... if he cost the same as Toby Rieder.

How can I be underselling him if you are trying to trade him while his cap hit is still 4.35M?


Blackhawks are not a 100% rebuilding team. Delia and Subban is not likely what they end up with. I think they will add a proven goalie as insurance.

Pts/game is the better approach with Johnson and Byron and you know it! And you ignored the actual salary and term. All that matters. Byron is easier to move than Johnson. Reality

Allen is better than what you think! His cap hit this year is not low or high. If a team can fit it in and need a goalie, they will consider it. And the AAV in the 2nd and 3rd year is a steal!
 
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