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Boqi Tinker Tinker

Créé par: FedererSmooth
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 30 sept. 2020
Publié: 30 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This baby contends. Question is does it cost more for Boqvist and Manson.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1874 125 $
2700 000 $
2925 000 $
31 900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
21 700 000 $
11 100 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Sandin, Rasmus
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
2.
ANA
  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Liljegren, Timothy
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (TOR)
3.
ARI
  1. Andersen, Frederik
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Yotes save 3.5m real dollars
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
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Logo de CAR
Logo de COL
Logo de SJS
Logo de STL
Logo de WPG
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2022
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $78 370 575 $0 $850 000 $3 129 425 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 640 250 $11 640 250 $
C
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 903 000 $10 903 000 $
AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 4
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
700 000 $700 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 050 000 $2 050 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Blackhawks de Chicago
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
1 650 000 $1 650 000 $
G
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
874 125 $874 125 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Coyotes de l'Arizona
5 275 000 $5 275 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
821 667 $821 667 $
AG, AD
RFA - 4

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30 sept. 2020 à 15 h 12
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tbh I don't know how to feel about that trade
30 sept. 2020 à 15 h 14
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I can't even with these Manson trades anymore. Why are we giving up so much for someone when there are guys in free agency who are way better and who will have a lower cap hit. Demelo, Brodie, even Gudas are all guys I would take over Manson. So please stop. The leafs don't want him. If they did they would have had him by now, trust me.

Also for the last time the Yotes have absolutely 0 need for Andersen. Stop trading him there
30 sept. 2020 à 15 h 33
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That's not getting you Boqvist. Bird in hand rather then gamble with the 15th OA pick and Sandin, meaning Boqvist has already proven the kind of talent he brings and the significant upside.
30 sept. 2020 à 15 h 39
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TOR is going to want to keep Sandin. Hawks want to keep Boqvist.
30 sept. 2020 à 15 h 40
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I can't even with these Manson trades anymore. Why are we giving up so much for someone when there are guys in free agency who are way better and who will have a lower cap hit. Demelo, Brodie, even Gudas are all guys I would take over Manson. So please stop. The leafs don't want him. If they did they would have had him by now, trust me.

Also for the last time the Yotes have absolutely 0 need for Andersen. Stop trading him there


What if Toronto takes Bracco out of the trade?

Yotes have 0 need for Andersen and save 3.5 mil in real dollars trading Kuemper for a 'normal' Andersen return. Something like a 1st and a prospect....
30 sept. 2020 à 15 h 46
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What if Toronto takes Bracco out of the trade?

Yotes have 0 need for Andersen and save 3.5 mil in real dollars trading Kuemper for a 'normal' Andersen return. Something like a 1st and a prospect....


Dude Bracco isn't worth that much, maybe like a 4th round pick at most, so taking him out of the trade is doing absolutely nothing. I would take everything out except Johnsson and get Anaheim to retain 50%. Otherwise there is no point giving up assets for Manson when we can sign someone who is better in free agency, do you see my point?
1 oct. 2020 à 6 h 35
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tbh I don't know how to feel about that trade


"this is beeeeetle, im in the house, beeeetle, im in the house, beetlejuice is gettin his .... ......!"

Please do explain! Is it close enough you took a second to consider it? I love this roster a tooon and would love to see this happen. Be willing to pay a touch more I think.
1 oct. 2020 à 6 h 38
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Quoting: themostleaf33
I can't even with these Manson trades anymore. Why are we giving up so much for someone when there are guys in free agency who are way better and who will have a lower cap hit. Demelo, Brodie, even Gudas are all guys I would take over Manson. So please stop. The leafs don't want him. If they did they would have had him by now, trust me.

Also for the last time the Yotes have absolutely 0 need for Andersen. Stop trading him there


So take Manson specifically out of it and plug in who you'd like to see. Just using him as a figurehead to demonstrate the kind of roster that could be had.

What in your opinion would need to be added to swing this deal for Darcy?

This is the best roster I've seen going into next year. Do you think its a cup contender?

thanks!
1 oct. 2020 à 8 h 20
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Quoting: ChiHawk
That's not getting you Boqvist. Bird in hand rather then gamble with the 15th OA pick and Sandin, meaning Boqvist has already proven the kind of talent he brings and the significant upside.


Hey nowwwwww! Thanks for the input. What would need to be added for you to swap sandin for boqi?
1 oct. 2020 à 8 h 23
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Quoting: exo2769
TOR is going to want to keep Sandin. Hawks want to keep Boqvist.


Goooooood mornin' Exo. I believe the leafs would trade Sandin for Boqi in a heartbeat. What in your opinion would be the package that would facilitate a Sandin for Boqi swap?
1 oct. 2020 à 8 h 40
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Quoting: FedererSmooth
Goooooood mornin' Exo. I believe the leafs would trade Sandin for Boqi in a heartbeat. What in your opinion would be the package that would facilitate a Sandin for Boqi swap?


Well hello! The situation...as I see it...would mean Dubas would have to come calling. I don't envision Stan wanting to trade him away. He just turned 20, The #8 OA, and will VERY likely take over the #1 PP role for the Hawks this upcoming year. I am a Hawks fan, but I've always said Keith isn't a great PP QB. He's ok, but not great. Keith is a 5V5 player. Anyway, back to the trade. Since IMO Dubas is calling, you're going to have to trade that projected value because that's what he means to CHI. That's honestly what we (and most importantly Stan) feel about the kid. Top pair, PP QB, that's cost controlled for 5 more years.

Sandin is an excellent piece coming back. I don't want to dismiss that. BUT if the Hawks really wanted Sandin....guess what...they would have drafted him. Not with the #8, but with 27th pick. Just 2 slots ahead of where TOR drafted Sandin. Again, that doesn't mean he's bad. FAR from it. It just means CHI probably still really believes in the LD they got...Beaudin. Now, acquiring Sandin would put Beaudin further down the food chain...OR Sandin would be staying in Rockford vs getting to the NHL. This is why I don't think the trade will happen...Boqvist means too much to us and fits our system AND Sandin doesn't exactly help our overall development plan for prospects, but since you asked...This might indeed be the value of the trade I guess. the 2020 1st is really good and Sandin is good too. If I were Stan, I'd be asking for A LOT more, but settling for something close to this, maybe Woll too because Hawks need goalies prospects. IDK, I just don't think it's realistic.
1 oct. 2020 à 9 h 54
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Quoting: exo2769
Well hello! The situation...as I see it...would mean Dubas would have to come calling. I don't envision Stan wanting to trade him away. He just turned 20, The #8 OA, and will VERY likely take over the #1 PP role for the Hawks this upcoming year. I am a Hawks fan, but I've always said Keith isn't a great PP QB. He's ok, but not great. Keith is a 5V5 player. Anyway, back to the trade. Since IMO Dubas is calling, you're going to have to trade that projected value because that's what he means to CHI. That's honestly what we (and most importantly Stan) feel about the kid. Top pair, PP QB, that's cost controlled for 5 more years.

Sandin is an excellent piece coming back. I don't want to dismiss that. BUT if the Hawks really wanted Sandin....guess what...they would have drafted him. Not with the #8, but with 27th pick. Just 2 slots ahead of where TOR drafted Sandin. Again, that doesn't mean he's bad. FAR from it. It just means CHI probably still really believes in the LD they got...Beaudin. Now, acquiring Sandin would put Beaudin further down the food chain...OR Sandin would be staying in Rockford vs getting to the NHL. This is why I don't think the trade will happen...Boqvist means too much to us and fits our system AND Sandin doesn't exactly help our overall development plan for prospects, but since you asked...This might indeed be the value of the trade I guess. the 2020 1st is really good and Sandin is good too. If I were Stan, I'd be asking for A LOT more, but settling for something close to this, maybe Woll too because Hawks need goalies prospects. IDK, I just don't think it's realistic.


Awesome, appreciate the in depth response good sir. I can see it being very hard to pry boqi away so I feel ya here. Those right side guys are just so valuable. Best of luck in the offseason for your Hawks!
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Quoting: FedererSmooth
Hey nowwwwww! Thanks for the input. What would need to be added for you to swap sandin for boqi?


Hawks would have a very hard time moving Boqvist as he's a top prospect/rookie. You just don't trade away players like him who are compared to Karlsson before you know what you have on your hands. When was the last time you saw a top 10 draft pick traded at the age of 19? It's rare for a reason. If he plays a couple seasons and Hawks don't see him fitting with the team or system that is a different story.
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Quoting: FedererSmooth
So take Manson specifically out of it and plug in who you'd like to see. Just using him as a figurehead to demonstrate the kind of roster that could be had.

What in your opinion would need to be added to swing this deal for Darcy?

This is the best roster I've seen going into next year. Do you think its a cup contender?

thanks!


Simple, take the picks out of the Manson trade and use them in the Kuemper trade. A 1st+2nd could be what it takes to get Kuemper. If it's the Pittsburgh pick it could be 1 for 1 but if It's a 2021 1st then I think you have to add a 2nd or a decent prospect
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