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Créé par: lazlopanaflex
Équipe: 2020-21 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 10 sept. 2020
Publié: 10 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Added a value, stop gap 2C, and a bonafide top 6 W to address top 6 needs. Additional 5+ mil available after RFA/UFA additions (to supplement a lower D pair? Goalie?)

RFA

Reinhart re-upped 6.75 x 5
Olofsson re-upped 4.00 x 2
Mittelstadt re-upped 2.00 x2
Kahun re-upped 3.8 x 3

UFA

Girgensons re-upped 1.4 x 2
Larsson re-upped 3.5 x 4

(Girgensons can be whoever, would love to keep Larsson, an elite match-ups C. If we can't sign him he'd need to be replaced)

Sabres only have 9 picks total in the next 2 drafts, would look to supplement if possible.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
56 750 000 $
24 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
33 800 000 $
33 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
21 400 000 $
43 500 000 $
Transactions
WPG
  1. Mittelstadt, Casey
  2. Ristolainen, Rasmus
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
2nd round pick should be 2020, 1st round pick top-10 protected
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2021
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2022
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2023
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2081 500 000 $76 517 500 $1 487 500 $4 337 500 $4 982 500 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
UFA - 6
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
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2 280 000 $2 280 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C, AG
UFA - 3
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3 800 000 $3 800 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance637 500 $$638K)
DD
RFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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3 875 000 $3 875 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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864 166 $864 166 $
DD
UFA - 1

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10 sept. 2020 à 12 h 55
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I could see Winnipeg having an interest in Ristolainen, but they won't overpay drastically as suggested here.
10 sept. 2020 à 12 h 57
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I don’t think it’s going to work for the Jets. Less so the value, more so the fit. Yes they could use Ristolainen, but Copp > Mittelstadt right now and they’re trying to contend. The pick likely won’t develop and help them for another 3-4 years if it’s even in 2021, and by then what does their cup window look like?
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10 sept. 2020 à 13 h 3
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Too much to larsson and a bit too much to kahun. Plus lines are all over the place. And montour?

Skinner- eichel- ehlers
Olofsson- Copp- Reinhart
Kahun- cozens- Johanson
Girg- larsson- okposo
Extra- lazar

Dahlin- joker
McCabe- Miller
Samuelsson-montour
Extra- vet dman

Goalies
Ullmark
Hutton
(Could trade johanson and free up some space for a move for a goalie, or just trade Hutton and get a backup)
10 sept. 2020 à 13 h 6
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Quoting: Windjammer
I could see Winnipeg having an interest in Ristolainen, but they won't overpay drastically as suggested here.


It's definitely not a drastic overpay, looking at past deals. I'd understand balking at it as a Jets fans though, that's fair. But Chevy was going to trade Ehlers for Risto last offseason, I've got the same deal here, but adding in a first round pick, which is a valued asset. Then I have Mittelstadt and a 2nd for Copp. It's hardly a mind-bending transaction.
10 sept. 2020 à 13 h 7
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I don’t think it’s going to work for the Jets. Less so the value, more so the fit. Yes they could use Ristolainen, but Copp > Mittelstadt right now and they’re trying to contend. The pick likely won’t develop and help them for another 3-4 years if it’s even in 2021, and by then what does their cup window look like?


I hear this. I think the value is reasonable, but I can't argue with you on your point about the pick. The reason I'm so willing to deal firsts is to maximize Eichel's window (and avoid a trade request), but you are absolutely correct in pointing out the Jets would be looking to maximize their window now, too.

They'd have to really like Ristolainen for this to be feasible. But I like where it would leave the Sabres at F.
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10 sept. 2020 à 13 h 9
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It's definitely not a drastic overpay, looking at past deals. I'd understand balking at it as a Jets fans though, that's fair. But Chevy was going to trade Ehlers for Risto last offseason, I've got the same deal here, but adding in a first round pick, which is a valued asset. Then I have Mittelstadt and a 2nd for Copp. It's hardly a mind-bending transaction.


Do you have a link for this supposed offer Chevy made? It's far more likely that Buffalo asked for Ehlers and Chevy rightfully said no. Either way though, I doubt Chevy considers it now.
10 sept. 2020 à 13 h 10
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
Too much to larsson and a bit too much to kahun. Plus lines are all over the place. And montour?

Skinner- eichel- ehlers
Olofsson- Copp- Reinhart
Kahun- cozens- Johanson
Girg- larsson- okposo
Extra- lazar

Dahlin- joker
McCabe- Miller
Samuelsson-montour
Extra- vet dman

Goalies
Ullmark
Hutton
(Could trade johanson and free up some space for a move for a goalie, or just trade Hutton and get a backup)


How the heck are the lines all over the place? I've got the same lines as you but switched Ehlers and Olofsson. Ehlers would be a much better fit with Reinhart than Eichel, as Ehlers likes to carry the puck in transition and Sam does not.

I listed the Larsson line before the Cozens line because it'll get more usage by ice time.

Fair point on Montour, I couldn't decide what to do with him so forgot about him lol. I'd deal him for futures potentially.
10 sept. 2020 à 13 h 13
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Quoting: Windjammer
Do you have a link for this supposed offer Chevy made? It's far more likely that Buffalo asked for Ehlers and Chevy rightfully said no. Either way though, I doubt Chevy considers it now.


Literally all over the internet that there was a deal on the table Botterill balked at. Ehlers and Appleton for Ristolainen and Davidsson. I think the Sabres were supposed to add a 2nd. Botterill is a dunce and let Chevy off the hook there when he was desperate.
10 sept. 2020 à 13 h 20
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TBH I don't think the likelihood of Winnipeg moving Copp is all that high either - they also need centres. But if D is their utmost priority, maybe Ristolainen has something on Chevy.

Just taking a shot here, for fun. Mainly I was hoping to illustrate what I consider to be the feasibility of this forward group with merely the addition of a stop-gap, more true-3C to the unit. Botterill didn't add a single C to the roster in 3 years save Lazar, I think a reliable 2-way, natural C in the mold of a player like Copp would work wonders without having to break the bank for a guy like Monahan necessarily.

Provided we add a top 6 winger. It also relies on retaining Larsson or a player like him. Eichel (and hopefully Cozens in a very sheltered role) are the offensive centres, if we aren't going to get a lot of offense from the other two, they need to be defensively reliable. Larsson and Copp would be matchups nightmares hopefully freeing up Cozens for that favourable usage.

Ehlers would be a dream next to Reinhart and provide that offensive spark on the second line, I see them as ridiculously complimentary players. I doubt the Jets move him, IMO he's their best forward full stop after Scheifele.
10 sept. 2020 à 14 h 44
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How the heck are the lines all over the place? I've got the same lines as you but switched Ehlers and Olofsson. Ehlers would be a much better fit with Reinhart than Eichel, as Ehlers likes to carry the puck in transition and Sam does not.

I listed the Larsson line before the Cozens line because it'll get more usage by ice time.

Fair point on Montour, I couldn't decide what to do with him so forgot about him lol. I'd deal him for futures potentially.


I mean our bottom 6s are completely different
10 sept. 2020 à 14 h 52
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Quoting: Nikolay_Zherdev
I mean our bottom 6s are completely different


we have the same 6 players. I just listed the Larsson line above.
10 sept. 2020 à 17 h 0
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Quoting: lazlopanaflex
we have the same 6 players. I just listed the Larsson line above.


i never said we had dif players... i said we had dif lines
10 sept. 2020 à 17 h 10
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i never said we had dif players... i said we had dif lines


My flipping of the order of lines 3 and 4 was arbitrary. Flip them if it makes you happy. We have a very similar forward lineup. We've just switched the positions of Olofsson and Ehlers in the top 6.

Montour omission on defense previously noted.
 
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