i think the worst part about this is drafting sanderson at 5

Really I think it's logan brown and the late round 1st for Laine. If their not willing to involve the 3rd or 5th overall

Chris Tierney
Erik Branstrom
NYI 1st
Joshua Norris
Ottawa's 2020 2nd
Our 3rd round pick back

They'll be looking at giving up what they got in the Karrlson trade

no chance lmao. At the time they traded EK he was one year removed from being the best Defenseman IN THE WORLD. Laine isint even the best winger on his own team. While i whole heartedly agree the proposed trade is bad, its not even realisitc. Jets get nothing back they need/want.

Yet the OP offer was terrible value. Not even close for the Jets to consider.

He's number six at right wing points wise and 22 not 30 be about the same, its one of those overpay situations Jets wouldn't move him otherwise.

ya for sure you overpay i just think youre still overvaluing him

Id do White and the 5th overall for Laine.

Josh Norris and Erik Brannstrom are untouchables. You want Laine ill give u the 5th overall and another good piece or 2

5th OA and some other decent adds is more then fair.

Well the only way they would move him is if it made the team better next year, it's more of a retool situation. It would have to be a whole bunch of futures and a roster piece or a top 6 center and top 4 defensman. If they didn't get that they would just keep him and move wheeler to center and pursue a top 4 D in free agency. We'll have over ten million after signing all our RFAs we'll have around 10.5 million cap space with a roster of 18. If Little go's on LTIR 15.5 with a roster of 17. They don't have to move him.

What would you give up for

Pastrnak 23 95 points last year 48 Goals 155 goals in the last four seasons
Kucherov 26 85 points last year 33 Goals 153 goals in the last four seasons
Patrick Kane 30 84 points last year 33 Goals 138 goals in the last four seasons
Mitch Marner 22 67 points last year 16 Goals 83 goals in the last four seasons
Wheeler 32 65 points last year 22 Goals 93 goals in the last four seasons
Mark Stone 27 63 points last year 21 Goals 91 goals in the last four seasons
Laine only 21 years old and hasn't even hit his ceiling yet 28 goals in a shortened season so 30 is probably is floor for goals production and 138 goals since he came in the league at 18.

Overall in the last four seasons he trails in goal production

Ovechkin
Mathews
Pastrnak
Draisaitl
Mcdavid

and he's tied with John Tavares and Patrick Kane. Those are all elite centers or have played with an elite center in those four years. Out of all those RW I listed besides pastrnak I'd take Laine next season at 6.75 million cap hit over the others.

I'm interested to see what Ottawa does at 5...Byfield/Stutzle at 3
Raymond, Rossi or D

raymond is the hope.

Ya but over the past 2 most recent years he hasnt even finished top 20 in goals. Thats a huge drop off. Sure hes never had that "elite" centre to feed him, but he has played with other still very very good players/finishers to help boost his assist numbers and feed him. But the guys you mentioned all drive the offense by themselves which makes them way more valuable. He is also HORRIBLE defensively and that's not just some narrative that is a fact. He had the worst defensive metrics of his career this year. He scored way way way above his expected goals for in his first 2 years, and the decline the past 2 is because hes scoring much closer to his expected goals, but still above which is good.

If you want a comparison, over the last 2 years mike Hoffman has more goals, assists and points. The play similarly in the sense that neither of them play a lick of defense, but hoffman the past 2 years has been a much much better play driver and finisher than laine has been. Patrik laine since the beginning of his carrer has been a below average diver of offense.

Again im not saying hes not a great player, and i think you still overpay for him and that the proposed offer is terrible. But considering after this year hes going to want like 8-9 million per, probably for 8 years, and is going to cost a kings ransom seems like a lot to give up for a guy whos pretty much pure offense and shooting (which has declined over 2 years) and not much else. Sure we know what laine CAN be, but hes not that right now is he? nor was he that last season. Nobody should give up assets for him like hes a 45 goal scorer cause he did it one time where he literally doubled his amount of his expected goals scored. Sure he could still score 40, but If wanted to trade for a player who "could" score 40, but probably won't and will be on an overpaid contract, might aswell get jeff skinner for a fraction of the price of laine.

Hes not even close to as valuable as the players you mentioned, also mentioning his cap hit of 6.75 for next year is nonsensical considering he'll get 8-9 the year after. Theres also way more RW apart from pastrnak id take over laine. Sens offer 5OA, Tierney and some fillers but not much else

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I'd disagree his defensive game was miles ahead of last year and he set a career high in assists for this last year he's showing he's not just a goal scorer he definetely struggled in his contract year as a minus 24 with Trouba, Buff, Myers, Morrissey and Chariot as our D core but bounced back to a plus 8 year on a Jets team that had no defensive core. Mike Hoffman scored 26 22 36 and 29 in the last four years for 113. That's as a 27-30 year old 10 goals in 29 career play off games and 36 was his best year he never scored more than 30 besides that year. VS Laine 36 44 30 28 as a 18-21 year old and 8 goals in 24 playoff games. I respect Hoffman as a player but he's at his peak he's not going to improve from here on. As I said 30 goals is probably the floor for Laine vs 30+ being the high for Hoffman in one year.

statistically speaking, pure goal scorers like laine peak at 23. He has definitely improved his passing i agree 100%. and yeah the jets were bad. But if im giving up what you expect people to give up for laine he should be expected to be great no matter the situation. Personally, i feel he deos needs a good situation to flourish and the jets dont provide that for him is what diminishes his trade value.