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Andersen

Créé par: MGK
Équipe: 2020-21 Capitals de Washington
Date de création initiale: 3 sept. 2020
Publié: 3 sept. 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
11 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
22 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
31 000 000 $
Transactions
WSH
  1. Andersen, Frederik (500 000 $ retained)
TOR
  1. Copley, Pheonix
  2. Hathaway, Garnet
  3. Jensen, Nick
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (ARI)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2281 500 000 $69 900 712 $419 749 $732 500 $11 599 288 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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9 538 462 $9 538 462 $
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3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
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5 166 667 $5 166 667 $
AD
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UFA - 4
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3 350 000 $3 350 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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9 200 000 $9 200 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
AD
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UFA - 5
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894 167 $894 167 $
AG, C
RFA - 4
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2 415 000 $2 415 000 $
C
UFA - 3
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1 375 000 $1 375 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
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750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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900 000 $900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
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8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
G
UFA - 1
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1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
DG
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UFA - 3
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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UFA - 1
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791 667 $791 667 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
DG/DD
RFA - 3

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3 sept. 2020 à 8 h 56
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Leafs won't retain on Andersen. He's already on a good deal. But maybe Jensen and a prospect would work
3 sept. 2020 à 8 h 57
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Leafs should accept if theyre smart.
3 sept. 2020 à 8 h 59
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Leafs won't retain on Andersen. He's already on a good deal. But maybe Jensen and a prospect would work


Just trying to figure out a good fit for both clubs, from a neutral fan.

Leafs could use Hathaway and Jensen, and the Capitals need to shed cap & get a veteran 1a for Samsonov.
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 0
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Even though it's good value for a pending UFA it's not what the leafs need
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 1
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Leafs should accept if theyre smart.


A bottom pair d-man, a 4th line overpaid grinder, a career AHL goalie and a mid round pick.. you think they should accept that? It doesn't offer them much of what they need and it adds to the cap when they're trying to move Andersen to free up cap space

I think the Leafs would be looking at more of a package like Jensen, a 4th or 5th round pick, and either Brett Leason or Lucas Johansen
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 3
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Just trying to figure out a good fit for both clubs, from a neutral fan.

Leafs could use Hathaway and Jensen, and the Capitals need to shed cap & get a veteran 1a for Samsonov.


Jensen could be a decent fit with Sandin on the bottom pair. But Hathaway doesn't fit in and he's overpaid. What would you think of Jensen, a 4th, and either Brett Leason or Lucas Johansen instead?
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 8
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Quoting: MitchMarner_16
Leafs should accept if theyre smart.


bro what? This is all were getting for Andersen retained?
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 9
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Jensen could be a decent fit with Sandin on the bottom pair. But Hathaway doesn't fit in and he's overpaid. What would you think of Jensen, a 4th, and either Brett Leason or Lucas Johansen instead?


Leason + Jensen + 4th sounds fine.
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3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 10
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Caps are probably going with Samsonov-Vanecek next year so don't think they need Andersen.
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 29
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Leason + Jensen + 4th sounds fine.


Leafs might want a condition on the pick to improve it depending on how far the Caps go. But I think it fits both teams
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 39
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bro what? This is all were getting for Andersen retained?


didn't see the retention. My bad. Ya on second thought we could probs get a bit more. I was basing this off of the 2nd and a 3rd offers for freddy
3 sept. 2020 à 9 h 47
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Leafs won't retain on Andersen. He's already on a good deal. But maybe Jensen and a prospect would work


Happy to retain that much with that return.
3 sept. 2020 à 10 h 3
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1 question.... Why?

Freddy Andersen is a legit #1 goaltender. By all accounts Ilya Samsonov is going to take that job.... Why would you spend assets and cap space on a goalie who is going to want to own the net, when there are guys like Khudobin, Howard, Craig Anderson, Condon, or Ryan Miller available via free-agency. All of whom are more than capable of player 30-35 games, and will come a 1/3rd of the salary, and cost no assets to obtain.

This would be a strange move.
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3 sept. 2020 à 10 h 30
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Leafs might want a condition on the pick to improve it depending on how far the Caps go. But I think it fits both teams


It doesn't fit both teams because the Caps have no interest in Andersen. Maybe a cheap vet backup to play 30-35 games if they're not confident in Vanecek, but Andersen's overkill for that role and takes up cap room they need to shore up the defense.
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3 sept. 2020 à 10 h 33
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Quoting: smrtguy90
1 question.... Why?

Freddy Andersen is a legit #1 goaltender. By all accounts Ilya Samsonov is going to take that job.... Why would you spend assets and cap space on a goalie who is going to want to own the net, when there are guys like Khudobin, Howard, Craig Anderson, Condon, or Ryan Miller available via free-agency. All of whom are more than capable of player 30-35 games, and will come a 1/3rd of the salary, and cost no assets to obtain.

This would be a strange move.


Samsonov was hurt in an ATV accident over the summer and was unfit to play for the postseason. There's no telling the timeframe when he'll be 100%.
3 sept. 2020 à 10 h 46
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Quoting: smrtguy90
1 question.... Why?

Freddy Andersen is a legit #1 goaltender. By all accounts Ilya Samsonov is going to take that job.... Why would you spend assets and cap space on a goalie who is going to want to own the net, when there are guys like Khudobin, Howard, Craig Anderson, Condon, or Ryan Miller available via free-agency. All of whom are more than capable of player 30-35 games, and will come a 1/3rd of the salary, and cost no assets to obtain.

This would be a strange move.


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Samsonov was hurt in an ATV accident over the summer and was unfit to play for the postseason. There's no telling the timeframe when he'll be 100%.


Samsonov also doesn't have that much experience to just be thrown the role of a starter on an elite team. Still be smart to have a guy there to ease him into it and if he falters they have Andersen to fall back on
3 sept. 2020 à 17 h 28
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Quoting: MGK
Samsonov was hurt in an ATV accident over the summer and was unfit to play for the postseason. There's no telling the timeframe when he'll be 100%.


Jensen is a fine RD with good underlying numbers who got off to a bad start in DC when asked to skate on his off-side and no regular partner / spot in the lineup. With a stable pair next season he'll be a fine 3rd pair RD who can easily out perform his cap hit. No need to move him at all. (Now, you want Michal Kempny, great. Orlov should be available for a good offer. But Jensen is one of two RD on the Caps or close to ready in the system.)

In the unlikely event that Samsonov is not fit to be the Caps goalie, they'll make an offer to Holtby. Andersen serves the Caps needs exactly zero. It's not that he's a terrible player, he's just not a fit in DC at all. Like the Leafs, caps need a solid 2-way right shot defenseman, plus a cheap veteran goalie, and an maybe an injection of youth and speed on the bottom six (or maybe a top six winger). Andersen just isn't what the Caps are using assets for.
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5 sept. 2020 à 14 h 23
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
Samsonov also doesn't have that much experience to just be thrown the role of a starter on an elite team. Still be smart to have a guy there to ease him into it and if he falters they have Andersen to fall back on


Still, a trade for a starting goalie doesn't make sense.... There are plenty of veteran 1B goaltenders available, that will be much cheaper than this trade. At least 4 guys who could take the net, if needed. There's no reason to trade these asset for Andersen... It would be a poor management decision.
5 sept. 2020 à 14 h 24
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Samsonov was hurt in an ATV accident over the summer and was unfit to play for the postseason. There's no telling the timeframe when he'll be 100%.


Still this trade makes no sense with so many decent veteran goalies available in free agency this year... Why trade a bunch of assets for one?
 
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